Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

I think we can get off on them as well but it still is worrisome whenever anyone can shoot like that.

I agree on Fredrick. Heā€™ll be in the NBA

Everytime I see him he has a good game. If you leave him open heā€™s hitting it. Seems to create fairly well. Nice size, I really like his game all around.

UNC has been 250th+ in 3pt rate allowed each of the last three seasons. Their defensive strategy is to give up a lot of threes. Weā€™ve fallen off from the elite level at preventing threes, but still not close to as much as UNC always does.

MSU only up 1 on Oakland with 4:30 left in the first.

MSU up 44-40 at the half. Oakland had it down to 1, but then 4 straight turnovers by Oakland PG Jalen Moore helped MSU push it back up to 8 before Oakland responded by getting it down to 4.

Oakland is shooting 52% from the floor and 53% from 3, with pretty much all of it coming from Rashad Williams who has 23 points on 8/16 from the floor and 6/11 from 3. 4-9 from the FT line is Oaklandā€™s only problem offensively.

MSU has been shooting the ball fine (7/16 behind the line, 8/16 from 2), but 12 turnovers in the first half so Oaklandā€™s zone is getting to MSU as well

UNC followed up their loss to Iowa with a 6 point home win over a bad NC Central team. Not sure they are even a top 25 team at this point.

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Pretty much every team in the top 25 has stunk against a bad team. Kansas, Illinois, Duke, MSU, Wisconsin, Virginia Tech, UNC, Texas Tech, Virginia, Ohio State, San Diego State have all won a game by single digits (or lost) against a bad team. UNCā€™s wins, and the loss to Texas in Maui are better than most teamsā€™ resumĆ©s so far.

You know who hasnā€™t struggled against a bad team, or anyone? Iowa.

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Sparty scores 109 but gives up 91.

Nobody does it better than Tom Crean, though.

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OSU up 31-24 over 0-2 Cleveland State at the half. OSU only shooting 38.5% from the field and 18% from 3. I was concerned about their shooting coming into the year, but without Liddell and Towns offense is going to be a problem for them until one or both are back.

For reference, in their last game CSU gave up 101 to Ohio U (which included a D1 record 40-0 run by OU).

Maybe their ranking will tank too?

MSU is down to 21st now on KenPom and torvik.

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Is osu offensive efficiency really that high?

UNCā€™s only notable win so far was over a discombobulated so-so Stanford team that just found out they were going to be stranded thousands of miles from home for an unknown period of time. And while their loss to Texas could be described as good, it also featured a massive FT disparity in their favor.

KenPom and Tovik rank them 26th and 36th currently so not exactly a top 15-20 team in the country.

They also fail the eye test (at least to me) in that their most talented players are all essentially centers or big power forwards in a guard dominated game. They have very little on the perimeter. UNCā€™s resume right now is that they lost some nice games.

Michigan is at 15 and 16 in KP and BT respectively

How favorable a whistle did OSU get in this game. Ducked in and out, but every time I had it on, OSU was benefitting from pretty absurd no calls and then lots of calls on Cleveland State. They finally called OSU for hacking the defensive rebounder once the game seemed safe.

wow, Cleveland State almost pulled it off. I was really surprised by that second half, I expected OSU to wake up and dominate.

OSU probably got a favorable whistle overall, but I also think a lot of the foul disparity was just OSU being better/more athletic leading to CSU foul trouble.

I really think OSU is in trouble these next few weeks though. Even with Purdue, I donā€™t see how they stop either of Williams or Edey, and they donā€™t have the shooters to try and force them off the floor and outscore them 3 for 2.

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