Isaiah Livers is a game-time type of decision at Rutgers

Kahn reporting he’s in sweats and a boot. May be Brandon Johns time

Wow. As I said earlier, I guess I’m shocked.

I’m sure it has happened before but good lord. Missing games in three different stretches for three different injuries seems like the worst luck of all time.

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I guess if it actually does matter in the committee room how different we are with and without Livers we might as well rest him and not risk putting another game with him in the loss column.

According to BQ, Livers’ injury is a high-ankle sprain…

That ain’t good

I don’t think the fact that it is a high-ankle sprain tells you that much. Obviously high-ankle sprains can be more significant but we don’t really know the severity and the timeline can vary pretty significantly.

Quinn’s Athletic article indicates that Livers’ injury is a high ankle sprain. Quinn confirmed this on Twitter

I dont have any doubt someone may have told him that but if I had to guess that person misspoke. High ankle sprains are really bad, he would have not been back in that game or participated in practice if he had a true high ankle sprain.

I don’t know a thing about the human body, but going from “allowed back into a 20 point game” to “actually bad enough to sit 2 weeks” gives me whiplash.

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Sure, but I don’t think someone could reasonably come back from a Grade 1 High-Ankle sprain in less than a week. Even in their lowest form it seems like it takes a little while for a High-Ankle to recover. Just a more finicky ligament… I’m thinking @goblue8 is right and BQ’s source misspoke or is just wrong.

Well, he didn’t return … At this point, I don’t think there’s a big reason to rush him back either.

I guess so. But the language around it from the program “boot is precautionary, he’s day-to-day, he practiced a bit” and the fact that he was put back into the game and traveled with the team seems to indicate it was not something that you would expect him to just rest on for atleast 2 weeks which is what should be happening with a low-grade high-ankle sprain.

He literally say out for 6 weeks with a groin injury that was called ‘day to day’ and traveled with the team.

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If he’s not 100% you’ve got to keep him out at this point IMO. Very little upside (what, maybe moving up a seed line in the tourney?) and so much downside. Nebraska is the only loss that would really do damage and we’ve already beaten them without Livers and Simpson on the road.

Tariq Owens literally did this just last year in the title game. As someone else stated, the swelling, stiffness, and a different pain comes on over the next hours/days. However, even bad looking ones can avoid complete tears. In that case, you can bear weight and even play through the pain, you just will slow down your recovery. Reinjury during this time is also more likely and could threaten the long term strength of some of those ligaments. Light movement can often help reduce swelling, it is totally possible he is keeping it immobile 22 hours a day but doing walk throughs or jogging in practice to help break up the swelling and maintain strength.

Based on my experience with several high ankle sprains.

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In one of his press conferences Juwan basically said that Isaiah traveled with the team as a way to stay engaged, not as a sign of his progress/imminent return. Joining the team on the trip to Rutgers tells us practically nothing.

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That’s what I was intending to convey. Isaiah has traveled with the team every game that he’s been hurt, I believe.

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Right, I think you conveyed that fine. I was just agreeing and offering some supportive evidence.

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