Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

I think people tend to forget that their PG play without Bohannon went down the crapper when he elected to get surgery. He’s an elite decision maker and doesn’t turn the ball over, 25 assists 3 turnovers thus far. Well over a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio in his career. It was Touissant/Fredrick initiating things. Less reliance on those 2 and more Bohannon is a good thing.

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Big summer UMhoops discussion. Consensus seemed to be “I don’t know how that team improves, it’s Fran McCaffrey, etc.” and that may not be wrong. But I think it’s an odd slant to take based on what we’ve seen through five games.

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Bohannon doesn’t help them improve defensively though. Iowa already was elite offensively and while they appear to be maybe even better offensively this year, the issue will still remain on the defensive end. We will see very soon as the Big Ten gets underway. If they start knocking off MSU, Wisconsin and Illinois, then people will have to change their minds. But if they have trouble and look like the 4th best team in the league then none of the Iowa haters will need to revise their thoughts. No one said they’d be bad. A lot of people think they’ll be the 3rd or 4th best Big Ten team and top 15 nationally rather than Big Ten champs and top 5. Nothing that has happened already even remotely moves the needle so far.

@buckets12 I promise I won’t call Gonzaga overrated after their game :grin:

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I think my push back is that UNC to me looks like a 15-20th best team in the country and Iowa (who I think is a clear top 5 right now) beat them pretty handily. And I think the Iowa State win, in the fashion they won it, was damn impressive. Michigan (who I think might be a 15-20 range team right now) has beaten a bunch of lower ranked teams than Iowa State by ~20 points. A 28-point win looked like what I’d expect from a top 5 team. I can understand how those on the other side of the Iowa conversation would say otherwise. We can all agree the Gonzaga game looms large.

Thank you :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: hahaha

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I’ll go so far as to say I’ll buy current Iowa as top 10 if they keep the game relatively close throughout.

unless there is massive 3pt luck one way or the other

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As much as I love Iowa, I think Gonzaga will win. And I bet if Iowa somehow does pull it off, a good amount of three point luck will be involved.

But if that happens I’ll definitely be making my way back to the forums acting like luck isnt a thing at all hahaha

I was here, and I’ve been as vocal as anybody in the anti Iowa and anti Garza crowd on the board. I don’t recall any large opinions that Iowa would be the same team. The main consensus was that they wouldnt make the huge leap to a top 5 team. I know I predicted they’d end up somewhere around the 15 range.

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Ahhh you are right. I think you, me and @kturnup are just talking in circles with a TBD on who is correct at this point :rofl:

I did find these:


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Also this reminded me that @umhoops and I have a bet on Wisconsin vs. Iowa for better B1G record. Pumped to see that play out!

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Is anyone else confused by Curbelo’s massive usage at Illinois? I know he was a top recruit but that backcourt returned so much.

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His usage is so high cause he turns it over so much lol

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Illinois is down 8 at the half @ Mizzou.

Also is the main page down for anyone else right now?

Purdue struggling again, vs. KP #138 Indiana State.

Larry Bird came out of retirement

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Missouri up 69-56 on Illinois, 9:18 remaining.

Illinois on a dominant run, now down just 1 with 4 mins left.

Been an interesting game. Can’t quite figure out if I’m buying or selling all the Illinois stock I bought coming into this year :slight_smile:

Both teams have looked super sloppy down the stretch, but the refs have also had their hands all over this game on both ends

Wow, that’s one of the worst flagrant calls I’ve seen in a while on Kofi. Pretty much gonna seal the win for Mizzou

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