Michigan Players in the NBA

Mo fouled out in 14 minutes.
Poole drags his fg% lower than the prior 27%.

JP still not overly interested on the defensive sideā€¦

Coaches in the NBAā€¦

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Yeah, he really doesnā€™t look like an NBA player right nowā€¦heā€™s just not really on an NBA team.

I choose to believe he is jumping in before Nimari commits, and that is my choice. OK?

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Thatā€™s a really good piece. Reccā€™d to all.

Dylan mentioned that Rockets players must have had a good night in Miami:

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Data looks sound on the basketball front. But we probably need a volunteer to go out and check his strip club data. I have not idea what Toronto has to offer, but have no idea of the criteria, either.

Not volunteering.

Yeah his criteria to rank the best strip clubs was not good. He used Google reviews, which are relative to the city most likely. Thatā€™s how you end up with Salt Lake City as #3 on his list of cities with the best strip clubs.

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low quality measurements add noise, they donā€™t create false signals

the correlation would be much stronger if we use Hardenā€™s own ranking.

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Tough night for the fellas in the league. 8 players saw the floor with a combinedā€¦

21-65 from the floor
7-31 from three
52 total points

Wagner continues to score pretty much at will, but commit a foul about every 2.5 minutes.

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Mo is having an interesting year so far

To the good:

Heā€™s been an excellent scorer - full stop. 11 points in 18 minutes a game, and is doing so efficiently - 59% from the floor including 41% on threes (2.5 attempts a game). Given he was not known as a post operator, itā€™s worth noting he takes half his shots within 3 feet and makes 77%. Aside from threes, the rest of who shots are 3-10 feet (ā€œfloater rangeā€), and makes 58% - he takes virtually none of the dreaded ā€œlong twoā€. Heā€™s also getting 1.5 offensive boards in his 18 minutes - which is also great. He doesnā€™t seem to pass but heā€™s done great ending possessions and picking up slop off the glass. His true shooting is 70% (league average is 55%), and since he shoots ALOT when heā€™s on the floor, thatā€™s astronomical.

Advanced stats actually has him as a league average defender, and heā€™s somehow blocking a shot a game in his 18 minutes. The Wizards are WAY better on defense when he plays than when he doesnā€™t but I suspect thatā€™s partly because the second unit has two defense-first guards so itā€™s just a better environment for D. I also suspect that the NBA may be easier for his lack of foot speed because the shorter faster PFs playing up to Center that he had to play in college (think Jordan Murphy or Caleb Swanigan) donā€™t exist.

Thatā€™s all great! So why does he only get 18 minutes a game, given that on a per-minute basis heā€™s better in every facet than the starting center?

One, he turns the ball over ALOT, but heā€™s been better about that over the past few games. That said, 2.5 turnovers a game in 18 minutes is still way too high.

Most prominently, he is committing four fouls in his 18 minutes - ie, he isnā€™t allowing Scottie Brooks the opportunity to play him more. Last night he had 4 in 9 minutes. We know that one of the challenges he had at Michigan was often just staying on the floor.

Overall heā€™s shown more than I expected, and his biggest flaw, the one time I saw him (and this will be familiar) is his puppy-dog enthusiastic aggressiveness (charges, over the back on the boards, chasing blocks). He still picks up blocks because he canā€™t move his feet laterally, but he mostly needs to stop chasing the tennis ball.

Wagner is to me the most interesting alum right now because lots of scouts questioned if his offense was good enough and his defense serviceable enough to play

I donā€™t think anyone expected heā€™d be able to score inside the arc, but he is.

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Appreciate this analysis! Would really love to see him succeed.

One more Michigan guy in the NBA - John Beilein. Itā€™s early, and I sense it canā€™t last, but theyā€™re a respectable 4-5, and have really only gotten whipped twice (by the Bucks and Mavericks). Their wins are over some weaker teams, but the East has a ton of those, and if the Cavs are, like, the 10th best team in the conference and not the 15, that would be a big improvement.

Lots of things about how they play are familiar - theyā€™re slow (23rd in pace, still a bit faster than Iā€™d have thought) and their best offensive trait in 4 factors is that they have the 5th lowest turnover rate. They also donā€™t foul - theyā€™re first in FTA/FGA defensively.

Two oddities so far is that theyā€™re dead league average in three point attempts - 15th, and other than not giving the ball away, their best trait is getting to the line - driven by Kevin Love getting a foul shot basically every 2 shot attemptsā€¦which is great. Obviously having Love and a revitalized Tristan Thompson (in a contract year after stealing money for 4 seasons) helps, but theyā€™ve gotten a phenomenal offensive start from Colin Sexton (using 27% of possessions at above average shooting efficiency. Perhaps most notably, Sextonā€™s turnover rate so far is 8%, which is unsustainably low, and a 25% improvement from last year. This could be an area where Johnā€™s proclivities are working?

Theyā€™ve gotten some good shooting starts from Sexton and Cedi Osman (over 40% each from 3) and even oddly Larry Nance Jr (over 38% on 3 attempts a game, in his first time ever really shooting them). The team performance is getting submarined by Darius Garland and Jordan Clarkson (who really needs to stop playing) canning 27% on a combined 9 attempts a game.

Overall itā€™s a good start, and you can see his fingerprints on the team already. Iā€™m really interested in his interaction with Sexton who at least has started off at all-star levels of performance.

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It looks like John could be really instrumental in Sexton having a good career in the league. He came out of college looking like the kind of talent that needed to be polished, and from what I remember he had a pretty rough rookie year.

Yeah, Sexton was probably the worst starter in the NBA through the All-Star break, then had a fantastic March - so their is a trendline that pre-dated Beilein. That said, March NBA basketball isnā€™t always realā€¦he was on a tanking team, and generally the trade deadline and post-deadline buyouts tend to REALLY hollow out the bottom half of the league, so you run into a decent amount of teams that are basically the walking dead. I also think Sexton has been helped by the fact that most of his minutes this year have been off-ball (last year he as 100% point guard, now he spends 75% of his time at the 2 next to Garland), and so he gets to catch & shoot more.

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I heard him say several times that he was a point guard and he was going to continue playing point guard with Beilein but he always seemed to be more of a finisher than a creator when I would watch him play. Whatā€™s been the largest hole in Garlandā€™s game? Is he just shooting really poorly, or is it turnovers?

Overall probably the shooting - his turnover rate is a little high, but not too bad.

Itā€™s hard to say that much about him, heā€™s 19 and basically didnā€™t play a college season in addition ot missing a whole year, so heā€™s undergoing a pretty big adjustment.

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