Yes the mafia being involved in seedy gambling is certainly a new development.
maybe Chauncey and Damon should have stuck with Draftkings!
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I mean Rozier was throwing prop bets
also wait until you learn what august group is knee deep in sports gambling alongside no-show union jobs and protection rackets
Meanwhile the Heat are praying to their sunburned god that Terryās contract gets voided
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Itās cool that Aaron Gordon just decided to become everything anyone hoped Michael Porter Jr. would be
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Aaron Gordon is such a cool player
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Oh donāt worry betting apps are implicated in Chaunceyās alleged indiscretions as well
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Colin I am positive that āNBA pro from 1997 to 2014, current NBA coach residing in Oregonā could apply to like dozens of people
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Do we really think that the mafiaās involvement with sports betting is a product of the proliferation of sports betting apps?
If anything, Iād bet that the growth of regulated sports betting in the US led to this getting caught more quickly than it would have in the past.
I get the jokes and PR stuff is low-hanging fruit, but I donāt think that the spread of sportsbetting is leading to the behavior as much as leading to the detection.
I do think that you can probably argue that the gambling stuff is a BIGGER problem for the league now that they are actually business partners with the sportsbooks though.
(Some of the smaller stuff: Jameson Williams betting in the Lions facility on random stuff, mid-major players at Fresno State betting 100 bucks on their PrizePicks prop unders, etc. falls more under the umbrella of a product of the mass legalization IMO, but again more detectable too.)
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The sheer sum of money in swinging gambling lines now is orders of magnitude higher than before the apps, so yes, absolutely 100%.
If gambling is now (making up numbers) a $2 billion business and was a $1 billion business prior to the apps (again - making numbers up to make a point) I think that will inevitably lend to more schemes, higher payouts for those schemes, and thus more money dangled in front of whatever desperate (Beasley) or greedy person they can find.
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Which is:
- Why itās an even bigger problem for the NBA. You are including pimping SGPs as part of your product so it matters a lot more when they are red flags.
- Why it is being detected.
Thereās more money involved, but thereās not really more money to be schemed. Itās still the same equation. Itās not like the sportsbooks are cooking the books. Thereās more money being lost by random people though, which again makes it a bigger problem for the big players (leagues, books, etc.)
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I think #2 is a point that either of us can use to fit our purpose of this argument (is there more detection because its happening more, for instance - my hunch is āitās bothā) so Iāll throw that one out.
I agree itās a massive problem for the NBA and any league.
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People really donāt get how much lowering the cost of doing something increases the amount of that thing is done. Elasticity of demand is however very predictable in vice consumption and is widely documented.
Do I think Chauncey who was clearly tight with lots of literal mobsters with relationships that likely go back well before sports betting apps was part of the marginal increment of crimes induced by these apps? No.
But the whole story on all of these players is that they got in deep with sketchy apps that used their inability to pay as a warmed up lead to convert them to crime doing! The play is old as hell but their reach is much wider bc the cost to locating leads went way tf down.
Gambling addiction is obviously way upāthere are already many papers estimating the societal costāand thereās a ton of pure loss that comes with having enabled this vice. That cost will obviously include crime and other unethical behavior. And some of these guys are clearly that, yes.
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Love his game. He has gotten better every season. I think heās a perfect PF for what you want in a roster building IMO.
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they are providing a heretofore unrealized depth of obscure bets one can place that opens infinitely more doors of vulnerability (in 2005 I could not make money by betting the assist under of the third guy off the bench). In 2005, seducing Jontay Porter would have gotten me absolutely nothing because he never did enough to swing an outcome I could wager on.
Gordon is a gym rat, dude bought an old warehouse in downtown Denver and built it into a gym penthouse
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Real life NBA 2K stuff lol
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I just love how Gordon went from a big stats guy on mediocre teams with high draft pedigree and was able to transform his game and fit in with a superstar with no ego, and continues to work and try to get better at it
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I can buy that there are maybe a few more prop markets, but I donāt think that the US sportsbetting stuff like created all of those markets. Thereās an overlap with some of this stuff in terms of technological/data tracking improvements too.
I would agree that the US sportsbook rise invented the SGP thoughā¦ which is the actual dark magic.
Yeah heās a good example of why you canāt read much into whatās said about a talented guy in an awful situation. Dude got to Denver is now known as one of the āpros proā of the nba.
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I just think that this current wave of NBA stuff (Porter, Billups, Rozier, Beasley) is way more in the same vein of terrible NBA financial decision-making and weird ties than a product of app-based gambling. An involved with the wrong people for the wrong reasons thing.
Not saying that there isnāt a huge societal cost to gambling and all of that, just feels like a shoe that hasnāt dropped yet. The college stuff is maybe closer to that.
There are all sorts of problems with it ā and to be honest, the blowback on social media is borderline insane and a real problem that impacts CBB players across the sport, even those who arenāt involved in any of it even if it sounds minor.
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