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https://x.com/omarisankofa/status/1944511958348361844?t=cB6F6mXSPlokI8z9Spzd8g&s=19
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I think itās time to pull Holland out of the SL and get him to continue to work on his shooting with Vinson. Thereās real progress in his shooting, but he needs to clean up a bit and be more consistent. I have better confidence that he can become a competent shooter.
Without Tek, weāll see Ausar and Ron be a PF when Tobias is on the bench.
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Why pull him
Heās getting so many more reps than he normally would
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Good news: Bufkin had 9 assists and six boards to 1 turnover
Bad news: 3/17 from the floor
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Pablo Torre goes deep into the Malik Beasley story, itās pretty good (ignore the shameless youtube thumbnail face mugging here)
Also in podcast form if you like 2x speed
Contains a fun fact that since his arrest, if you calculate clutch based on the Vegas spread and not winning, he is the most clutch player in the leagueā¦but even BETTER if neither is in play. He is the garbage time king!
Anyway itās a wild story, entertainingly reported
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Itās going to be amazing when summer league MVP 2 of 3 years is won by Michigan legends (Jalen Wilson and RayJ Dennis)
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I watched this yesterday, it was interesting, but I feel like it kind of just ended and didnāt really get anywhere in the end.
I know they had the garbage time stat and used it to act like it was proving that he wasnāt betting or something, but it felt like something that would absolutely apply to someone betting on their own prop overs 
Also, the fact that this āringā is a bunch of idiots makes you think that there are smarter people coming a lot closer to accomplishing this stuff without getting caught. Or at least could be.
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so funny that there is such a thing as a summer league MVP. they play like 5 random games!
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TBT > Summer League. Sorry, not sorry. (And they are both horrible.)
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TBT is harrrrd to watch sometimes. The later round games can be fun sometimes
Itās absolutely horrible to watch.
I think Iāve landed on āwhen we see who is dominating Summer League (basically, quadruple A G-League types like Dennis and Javon Freeman-Liberty), we have to conclude it means nothing, itās just that weāre thirsty to see the rookies for the first timeā
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I vaguely remember Ben Simmons Summer League highlights having people convinced he was going to be an all star.
Ben Simmons was an All-Star 
(3x even!)
From starting out as ROY and 3x All-Star, his career fell off hard.
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Lol did not even know that, just reveals how much of a casual I am with regards to the NBA.
Is that really how they treated that? Thatās bizarre bc that was my first thought too. When better to go hit some prop overs?
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And yeah Summer League is just brutal to watch but to catch up on any guys from the draft you missed or the Euro draftees I think itās pretty helpful.
OTOH I havenāt watched a minute of Noa Essengue soooo
Seemed like they were talking about the game spread, yes. Because of that one clip where he rushes down the floor.
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Yeah they seemed to only focus on game spread during that part of the conversation and called him a garbage time player regardless of spread. But thatās the exact time it stands out for props. Itās more likely that these guys are betting on props than spreads anyways because one player can influence a prop bet much easier than they can influence a spread.
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Trae Young defense has him shook!