This is just unreal
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95% of the credit goes to Murray.
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I will say that as a Hawks fan it is not shocking to me that Indiana is even worse offensively this year even though they should have upgraded offensively at 2 positions this year
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Can we revisit the is Keegan Murray better than Luka Garza discussion yet? I got absolutely hammered when I suggested that before the season 
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Bad at offense? But Woodson is an “NBA mind”! Just ignore his entire offenses being built around “ISO Joe”
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I remember that. You really did, didn’t you! I didn’t participate in the hammering, not my style, but I did wonder at the time, “Keegan Murray?” You were right, kid can play!
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But, but, but…he drew up that game winning play for the sub 30% shooter that one time!!!
Two questions:
- Is Indiana’s offense better, worse, or the same as last year?
- How much of Indiana’s evidently low offensive ceiling do you attribute to TJD as the centerpiece?
I mean it’s still mostly on the players fault for sure. not just TJD, but Race as well and the combination of the two being the biggest issue. The two of them are able to put up decent stats but I think they hurt everyone else on the court. They’re just so easy to gameplan against
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The supporting cast is pretty awful.
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If we look at Juwan as a plus offensive coach (I think fair to say at this point) and put IU’s personnel in our system, I just don’t think there is a ton of improvement there. Any coaching is probably better than what Archie did, Woodson is TBD but not terribly inspiring at the moment but I still think its the personnel more than anything.
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so is there just an unconquerable Archie stench on the roster? are we wait and see on Woodson or is he doing anything noticeably better or worse?
There is a developing Chucky Hepburn narrative. I could see him nipping one of the Michigan guys.
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I think you give Woodson an incomplete on his report card this year because of the roster. It takes time to turn over a system. You’d rather he have done SOMETHING with their offense obviously since they seem like the same team again…but a little early to tell. They have no shooting (not that Michigan does either really) and TJD seems to vanish against better teams - but I think we have to wait a year.
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I’m just so curious because the IU fan temperature has been quite the parabola. Not a very long honeymoon for Woodson after the Matta hire and Bates commitment had them thinking he was completely rewriting the power structure in the B1G
I like TJD Thompson and Stewart but the rest of the roster isn’t good. If think there is some untapped potential in Geronimo as well. Feel bad Lander for 2 years is hasn’t been able to develop.
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Fascinating chart. I’m not sure which fans of those teams would actually tell you their freshman has been “good” or “met expectations”. The alignment to NBA draft prospects versus who is clearly in need of another year is also interesting when looking at it. Probably still story to be written here down the stretch with so many key games coming up that will decide these teams fate. McGowens has it difficult because no one pays attention to his trash team. Diabate and Houstan are really erratic but if they put some good games together in a row and Michigan moves up the rankings you could see them getting votes. Christie’s case made more sense when MSU was winning and he was playing a lot of minutes regardless of effectiveness. Now they’re losing and he’s playing a lot of minutes.
One thought for some off-season content would be to compare some of these guys to previous years. How does this group compare to the guys last year who stuck around (Hunter, Ivey, Davis, Murray) or who jumped early (Banton).
The other off-season comparison I’d like to see is struggling Frankie Collins versus freshman Simpson or Brooks. Both of those played more minutes and Frankie has had fewer “good games” but how far off are we talking? Miles or parsecs?
It’s surreal to me how IU can’t seem to get it together. People have made comparisons to Michigan football, but (aside from that M football finally broke through) what they’ve gone through is worse. The national title picture in basketball is way more open than in football, and you just have to be decent to make the tourney. Somehow even decent is really hard for them.
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Not to mention that all it takes is a couple of good recruits or transfers to be good enough to get in. The Big Ten is tough to be sure, but teams like MN and NW have found a way to get into the dance.
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