The pod is more for fun that predictive terribly, but on Dunc’d On’s “mock trade deadline” the Pistons got MPJ for Holland, Ivey, and Duncan Robinson (no picks)
My thought is that it makes more sense to have Tobias in it than Robinson (if the idea is that you need more shooting, trading a shooter for a shooter (albeit Porter is clearly a much better scorer) seems odd, but interesting they found a formulation that contained no picks
Yeah, I’d agree. I’m saying the intention at this point, with this move, is to make their pick this draft, and compete NEXT year.
Agreed. Think this is the last year they want to be bad and this trade signals they want to be competitive starting next year.
Just in: Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit have agreed to a multi-team deal that sends Jaden Ivey and Mike Conley Jr. to the Bulls and Kevin Huerter and Dario Saric to the Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Detroit also receives a 2026 first-round protected swap from Minnesota. Just in: Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit have agreed to a... - ESPN http://espn.com/app
I actually like this trade for the Pistons? I’m surprised they got a decent return out of Ivey, who has fallen out of favor in the rotation. Huerter is a proven shooter, Daric is meh, and both are expiring contracts, but a ‘26 protected 1st round swap is interesting.
Now I think about it, this gives Langdon a bigger cap space to extend Duren and use the trade exception for someone who can shoot in the off-season.
Also, Minnesota isn’t getting anything in return. Am I assuming a trade exception?
pretty good all around I think?
Detroit solves their shooting on the cheap (maybe not enough, but Huerter helps at least)
Chicago accomplishes their absolute favorite thing to do - save Jerry Reinsdorf money (get outta hear, Saric’s zombie contract!) (yes, they also get, at least, a lottery ticket in Ivey)
Minnesota gets to duck the apron at the cost of a swap that doesn’t seem THAT impactful (getting Minnesota’s late first rounder for their own likely later first rounder is sort of whatever)
Also, this is interesting!
This Ivey deal really is a head-scratcher. Troylike, unless there’s more to come. Saric is pretty much done and Huerter is only shooting 31% from 3 this year. The pick part may have appeal but they really sold low on Ivey.
I dont think Ivey had much value at the moment. He’s barely playing.
They had no interest in resigning Ivey after this year. Huerter is a shooter who can’t shoot this year
Regardless of what Ivey was going to become, I think it was clear his value was not going to improve in Detroit, there simply weren’t minutes for it
The big question, I guess, is if the minutes weren’t there for Ivey, will they be there for Huerter?
If not, they dealt Ivey for like 5-6 draft slots (if the season ended today the Pistons would climb from 29 to 23 with this swap)
I wonder if the plan is he could he end up taking minutes from Caris?
It seems likely the picks the Grizzlies get will not be Jazz picks:
the best 2027 pick between Cleveland, Minnesota, and Utah (seems most likely to be Utah, but maybe not
Lakers 2027 pick (probably not that great)
Suns 2031 pick (who the h*ll knows)
The Jazz still have a pick in every upcoming draft, if not 2.
Caris has been out with what’s being reported as an illness for the last 10 days. I’m not sure if he’s really sick or if it’s something else, like featuring Ivey on the ball more or getting ready to also deal Caris.
One piece of irony here is that there isn’t that much to suggest Huerter…is a better shooter than Ivey? He shoots a comparable % at 1 more attempt per 36 minutes.
I think JD is slowly convincing me here.
I think it has more to do with Langdon preferring not to deal with Ivey’s potential contract extension in the FA, even if it’s a qualifying offer.
I do think Ivey is an underrated shooter, but he hasn’t been the same since Cole “basketball terrorist” Anthony knocked him out of the season last season.
I would hope that my exec would not trade a guy merely because he “doesn’t want to deal” with non-tendering him
Huerter is a FA next year, so either way, you’re going to face the “re-sign or cut him lose” dilemma, the calculation is “who helps the team more between now and the season ending” and literally nothing else.
I don’t see White or Dosumnu staying in Chicago, so almost definitely see Ivey as their starting SG next year on the cheap.
Yeah 5-6 1st round draft slots plus swapping out the archetype of your bench wing. Feels like they maybe could have peeled slightly more but I don’t think Ivey had much of any value at all.
Ivey has very much been “just a guy” out there this year. I’m surprised his stats have been as good as they are because it feels like he makes no impact when he’s out there
Maybe the Pistons figured that it had been over a season without a redhead on the team and they needed to do something about it? Bringing Malachi Flynn back just wasn’t in the cards.
buddy you have described one Kevin Joseph Huerter