Can see how much models love age as a variable here, for one.
Homer glasses have had me wondering the same thing about Kispert all year. Heās a quarter inch taller than Livers, but 2 inch less wingspan. I know on the recent podcast Dylan and Brendan pointed out Liversā body fat was āhighā (LOL) at 9.4%, but foot injury rehab is going to limit your ability to train and get cut before the combine. Kispert isnāt significantly more athletic where he translates to a better defender in the NBA.
Maybe you can say his shot is better, but put Livers on a team with Suggs, Ayayi, and Timme going against WCC teams and heās getting way more open looks every game than he saw in the Big Ten. I donāt see the clear advantage of Kispert in the teens compared to Livers, or even Wieskamp, at the back end of the 2nd round.
Kispert also had games like 32 pts 9-13 from 3 against Virginia this year. He absolutely lit it up for Gonzagaās nonconference stretch against great competition.
That said Iām also in the boat that he isnāt a lottery pick. Maybe Iām just bad at it, but it seems really hard to project elite shooters in the draft, and if Kispert ājustā is a great shooter and hits 40%, he probably isnāt a starter or worth a lottery pick.
Iāll defend Kispert a bit. I wouldnāt want him top 10 but late lottery to 20 feels right. He makes a lot more sense for good teams than bad teams, but I think he could have played minutes immediately for a team like the Bucks, Hawks or Suns and hit shots.
23 against Kansas (8-13, 3-8)
25 against Auburn (9-14, 4-8)
19 against West Virginia (6-11, 2-4)
32 against Virginia (11-15, 9-13)
He basically played his worst stretch of ball all season in the NCAA tournament and still shot 46% from the field, 42% from three and averaged 16 PPG. Once you get past the super high upside types, heās one of the higher floor options as a complimentary piece in this draft, IMO.
In a 2014 redraft Joe Harris would be about a late lottery pick, yeah. Again, poking holes in guys from the one or two games you saw them is wildly irresponsible from an evaluation perspective. Homer would be the right word LOL. Kispert shot 41/93 from 3 in KenPom Tier A games last year and 20/51 in them the year before.
Heās 8 months younger than Livers, his stats at finishing at the rim are a lot better, and his shooting from 25+ feet is quite a bit better. I would take Kispert in the 13-20 range
my big board:
1. Franz Wagner
2. Isaiah Livers
3. Chaundee Brown
4. Mike Smith
60. Corey Kispert
Iām with you Boutros!!
Whereās Austin Davis?
Austin Davis is 6.
Jesus Christ is 5!
What a shock.
You have those backward.
Hey, that looks a lot like my 2021 list of 5-stars! I wonder if weāre using a similar methodology.
But how will we know that Weaver is the smartest person in the room?
Been listening to the Duncād On scouting report for Cade and itās good to be reminded what a great floor he has. The height + solid athleticism + shotmaking means that even if he isnāt a star youāre gonna be real happy to have him. There are some things to nitpick but I havenāt seen a OAD w/ that kind of easy shooting skill.
They also brought up Tatum as a shotmaking comp and reminded me that his FT% vs. 3FG% was the thing where the light went on as far as that goes in evaluation. I think itās fair to ding Franz bc you can see his shot just isnāt classic form? But loooots of luck there too and his FT% suggests heās prob at least an average NBA shooter.
Speaking of Franz.
Iām so happy that Cade will be a Piston. The Pistons will finally have a genuine homegrown star.
Put some respekt on Darkoās name.
Nuggets take Ayo if they donāt trade out of their pick. You heard it here first.
Hey now, wildly irresponsible evaluations are my specialty here.