There is nothing in Huerter's film suggests he isn't anything below an average ball handler. As a Jr, I think it's clear, based on his ever growing offer list and interest of high major programs, this kid can play.
And taking into consideration what I know JB values, I think this kid would be a great fit.
I simply disagree, his handle is below average in my opinion. He does not display the ability to change direction, and his dribble is fairly soft. The one isolation play he did have in a halfcourt setting against a set defender, he nearly lost the ball, and looked relatively sloppy. Tyus Battle is what I would label as an average ballhandler…and I think Huerter is far from that. Just seems we have different standards.
There is nothing in Huerter's film suggests he isn't anything below an average ball handler. As a Jr, I think it's clear, based on his ever growing offer list and interest of high major programs, this kid can play.
And taking into consideration what I know JB values, I think this kid would be a great fit.
I couldn’t agree more. There’s a major role to be played in JB’s offense by a kid with this skill-set.
Keep in mind that Nik played against high level prep school teams in high school. And performed well with the ball in his hands. Doesn’t mean that Huerter can’t play. I love his game. I’m assuming that he’s playing PG in EYBL, and his 4 assists per game with only 1.5 turnovers suggests that he has potential as a PG, or at least a combo guard.
Fair enough Matt, but more important than what we think, it what JB thinks and from what I can gather, Hueter is a guy they REALLY like. So in that vein, it’s matter of figuring out how he fits and what it means going forward.
I think he’d be a great addition…and it took me about 45 secs of film to come to that conclusion. I’m not comparing his ability to Nik, but when I saw Nik fir the 1st time, my immediate reaction was, this guy has Michigan written all over him. I feel the same way with Hueter. And I’m quite sure the coaches feel the same way.
Keep in mind that Nik played against high level prep school teams in high school. And performed well with the ball in his hands. Doesn't mean that Huerter can't play. I love his game. I'm assuming that he's playing PG in EYBL, and his 4 assists per game with only 1.5 turnovers suggests that he has potential as a PG, or at least a combo guard.
Pretty much my opinion, just need to see more film against legit comp. I just don’t find the argument that Huerter can handle the ball very convincing based on the film. His film reflects passing ability very similar to Derrick Walton in HS - to the extent that he racked up assists on transition outlet passes and transition in general…we can see that doesn’t always translate in a halfcourt setting against high major competition. Transition highlights can be very deceptive for non-athlete types. PnR is usally the best guage of where a PG will play/translate to the next level.
Fair enough Matt, but more important than what we think, it what JB thinks and from what I can gather, Hueter is a guy they REALLY like. So in that vein, it's matter of figuring out how he fits and what it means going forward.
I think he’d be a great addition…and it took me about 45 secs of film to come to that conclusion. I’m not comparing his ability to Nik, but when I saw Nik fir the 1st time, my immediate reaction was, this guy has Michigan written all over him. I feel the same way with Hueter. And I’m quite sure the coaches feel the same way.
I’m not debating whether or not JB would like Hueter, because frankly, I’m not privy to that information. That being said, I do know that JB recruits(at least recruits that end up at UM) tend to be 6’4 - 6’8 shooters and below average athletes. Whether I agree with that philosophy is a different story, but for this particular kid, I would just like to see film against legit competition before I’m fully on board…especially in terms of his passing. I’m fairly sure his ballhandling isn’t a strongsuit.
There is nothing in Huerter's film suggests he isn't anything below an average ball handler. As a Jr, I think it's clear, based on his ever growing offer list and interest of high major programs, this kid can play.
And taking into consideration what I know JB values, I think this kid would be a great fit.
I couldn’t agree more. There’s a major role to be played in JB’s offense by a kid with this skill-set.
Fair enough Matt, but more important than what we think, it what JB thinks and from what I can gather, Hueter is a guy they REALLY like. So in that vein, it's matter of figuring out how he fits and what it means going forward.
I think he’d be a great addition…and it took me about 45 secs of film to come to that conclusion. I’m not comparing his ability to Nik, but when I saw Nik fir the 1st time, my immediate reaction was, this guy has Michigan written all over him. I feel the same way with Hueter. And I’m quite sure the coaches feel the same way.
I guess my question to you is this - I understand that you think JB really likes the kid, that much is understood. Do you think Hueter has difference maker potential?
I tend to gravitate toward open gym type of kids - where you just put them in any gym, any place, and its obvious they can ball out irrelevant of system. I think we tend to obtain a lot of ‘system’ type players, where the team really needs to run a certain type of offense in order for those type of guys to be average/above average players.
Here is my comparison for Huerter. He is very similar to former WVU guard, Alex Ruoff. Very good shooter, can handle some PG if needed but not necessarily your primary ball handler. Looks like he has some room to grow physically. The City Rocks, his AAU team, have help produce Jimmer and Talor Battle (formerly of Penn State).
Have to think he’s a backup option to all the other guys they’ve been on a while now. The staff waits until they get a clearcut answer from Battle and/or Langford before anything happens with an offer. Probably talking about an unofficial here soon.
They’ve got another EYBL spot in Lexington, KY next weekend to see if he can continue to produce at a high level.
Here is my comparison for Huerter. He is very similar to former WVU guard, Alex Ruoff. Very good shooter, can handle some PG if needed but not necessarily your primary ball handler. Looks like he has some room to grow physically. The City Rocks, his AAU team, have help produce Jimmer and Talor Battle (formerly of Penn State).
Having watched Ruoff in his time at WVU, that’s a really good comparison on my first glance I think.
I know this isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but I like Huerter over Winston due to the system JB runs. I get that they will more than likely play 2 different positions, but with the limited amount of space we have and if it came down to picking one over the other, I think I’d go with Huerter, again, primarily because of the system JB runs.
Matt, I think Huerter could be a differerence maker, yes. As far as the ‘system’ players idea, ehh, I don’t buy it. I don’t want to get into a tangential discussion about it…but I don’t see Huerter as a ‘system’ player, nor did I see Stauskas as a ‘system’ player.
One thing I love about Huerter is that he plays the game ‘fast’ if that makes sense - always looking to move the ball forward either with the dribble or the pass. Just like that type of aggression vs the timid play we see from some. I like kids that have confidence in their movements on the court
I think we tend to obtain a lot of 'system' type players, where the team really needs to run a certain type of offense in order for those type of guys to be average/above average players.
Good thing we run that system. For me, player + system is all that matters. Not saying of course that “system players” are better than non-system players, but simply that productivity at Michigan is all I care about.
I think we tend to obtain a lot of 'system' type players, where the team really needs to run a certain type of offense in order for those type of guys to be average/above average players.
Good thing we run that system. For me, player + system is all that matters. Not saying of course that “system players” are better than non-system players, but simply that productivity at Michigan is all I care about.
I agree that productivity is the ultimate measure. That being said, I think a good deal of folks tend to completely ignore the defensive aspect of things. So when measuring productivity, defensive ability/shortcomings should be accounted for as well in order to get a net product.
I don’t see much from Huerter’s film that shows he can beat people off the dribble. In fact there aren’t many players on the roster that can beat their opponent off the dribble. I would like to see if Huerter can guard his position effectively as well.
I don't see much from Huerter's film that shows he can beat people off the dribble. In fact there aren't many players on the roster that can beat their opponent off the dribble. I would like to see if Huerter can guard his position effectively as well.
I’m in the same boat. I want to see this kid guard an athlete.
I have to believe this is just casting the net out there. Seems like our 2016 spread is bigger than any other class. Maybe JB is adjusting a little, I don’t know.
That said, I’m not a fan as a PG and I think we have many better options at the other guard spots…such that I would be disappointed if we took Huerter instead of the many others.
As mentioned, I’d like to see him deal with quick, athletic guards over and over.
And create for others better before tabbing him as a PG or even a combo guard prospect.
I didn’t read thru all the comments but I can’t imagine I’m not the only one that’s hoping we don’t use a spot on this one.
Well, clearly, if Langford, Battle, or one of the top PG recruits (Thornton, Winston, or maybe even Ramsey) is a good bet to commit, you take them. But we could easily again find ourselves in the situation where we lose those guys to more elite programs, and are left holding the bag. It’s a balancing act - if we don’t offer Huerter, we at least have to recruit him hard enough that we may still be able to get him if the other guys pick other schools. If, at the time we were recruiting Nik, we were also right in it for a few five star wings, would you have offered and taken a commitment from Nik? It would have been a mistake to pass, of course.
Don’t see this guy as a point guard, but he is a distinguished passer, that’s for sure. His jumper is nice. Might or might not light it up for us, but he’s got great court savvy, gets the ball up the floor; this is the kind of kid Beilein coaches up. He’d hold up his end almost from the get-go.
Don’t think whether we run a system or look for players for it is really even in question. Beilein has had to win with brains, not great players. But with ever-better players, he has had that system humming the last few years.