I tend to agree, and tend to trust Beilein the least with centers. Obviously bigs in general are really hit and miss but beilein has had a lot of centers that people questioned as takes bomb out of the program.
Cronin, Davis, Mclimans, Biefeldt all did and Morgan was really the only one that hit
Thatâs a great point about rim protection; especially with the emphasis on âverticalityâ sweeping across the officiating world.
Skogman looks like the type of dude who is a thorn in our side at schools like Wisconsin/Iowa/Minnesota for 4 years.
Itâll be fun to see how the 5 position recruiting pans out.
Dumb question (as I just donât know Wisconsinâs roster and recruiting very well, beyond Reuvers)âŚany reason why Skogman isnât on the Badgersâ radar? Seems he fits their mold as well.
He is, just no offer yet. Believe theyâve been out to watch him a few times.
Fair points on Cronin and McLimans; definitely forgot about Big Ben. In that context Coachâs track record isnât so great.
The run of PGs is incredibleâŚgoing back to Darius Morris. Wonder whatâs fueling that? The leadership seems to be the common theme: Morris, Walton, Burke, Simpson all definitely had different games.
Cronin is more of an âincompleteâ because of injury.
And Biefeldt was fineâŚhe just took a while and ended up making a nice contribution (B1G sixth man of the year for a Sweet 16 Indiana squad) as a grad transfer elsewhere, which was actually Beileinâs call to not bring him back.
The bigger miss with Beifeldt is that Beilein chose him over Larry Nance Jr. if I recall correctly.
I donât think anyone hits 100%. For every Caris LeVert there is an Ibi Watson (or whatever). Thereâs some sort of a ratio between recruiting hits (especially late) and misses, it is just part of it.
I watched video expecting to be unimpressed and not commenting. Instead⌠I am very impressed. He is light on his feet, moves very well, and can shoot it appears. If heâs 6â10â he is a great prospect imo, even if heâs an inch or two shorter, I still like him. Definitely BIG caliber player. Didnât see much vision exhibited but who knows on such a short video
Cardiac arrest, damn thatâs scary. Best of luck to the young man.
People also questioned Wagner and Wilson, who turned out okay. Bielfeldt was a spring flyer for center depth, Cronin got injured.
Beilein also went after a lot of good centers who went elsewhere. Everyone has misses, of course, but the problem has probably been more JB attracting top tier prospects. Hopefully the successes of McGary, Wilson, Wagner, now Teske is changing that.
Does his film remind anyone of Donnal?
I also thought he looked a lot like donnal and that is my fear, hard to tell from highlights but its seems like he floats on the perimeter and some of the finishing clips are concerning.
I donât think McGary is the poster child for Michigan player development, given how quickly he flamed out due to his recreational substance habits. I doubt Beilein refers to him at all.
Getting guys drafted and to the league is a huge deal and selling point. I doubt Beilein shies away from referring to McGary. In fact, he referred to McGary four days ago after the MD game:
âYou have the Caris LeVert, you have the D.J. Wilson and youâve got the Mo Wagnerâs. Who, as freshman, itâs tough for them to come in. Their bodies arenât ready or there is people in front of them. Itâs tough but they become tremendous players. Then youâve got the Nik Stauskas, the Trey Burkeâs and the Mitch McGaryâs. Their bodies are ready and they come in. Theyâve got guys like we have in 2013, guys that can come in and play.â
Maybe Mitch isnât the first name off the tongue these days, but I would bet that he gets mentioned in the list of bigs that were 1st round draft picks. Mitch was probably one of the big early memories for some of these guys.
At what position has Beilein had the most misses? My gut was to say at center, but for every Ricky Doyle or Austin Davis (could yet succeed, but) there has been a slightly unlikely guy who Beilein has Rubikâs Cubed into something special.
Totally agree with you on this. IMO there will be 2 transfers and 1 leave for the NBA this spring. I will not speculate the players during the season on line because that makes for bad vibes team wise. We donât need to mess with team chemistry at this point.
for every Ricky Doyle or Austin Davis (could yet succeed, but) there has been a slightly unlikely guy who Beilein has Rubikâs Cubed into something special
Idk about that, he has done that with guards and wings but centers have been a struggle, Morgan is really the only one. Mcgary (all world), Wilson(top 100 prospect), Teske (slipped a bit after we landed him but pretty much the entire b1g(sans msu) wanted him and he was top 100 prospect when we gained his commitment), and Wagner (European nba scout told Rivals analysts he was a top 40ish prospect if in the us) were all fairly highly regarded.
Agreed. Not that it matters though. End of the day even if Michigan does offer Skogman Iâll trust Beilein. But Wagner was frequently labeled a top 50ish player if he was in the US before coming to Michigan. Teske had lots of Midwest High Majors pursuing him for awhile. Generally when Michigan has gone after under the radar bigs those have been the most likely to not pan out.
Wasnât Morgan originally recruited by Amaker?
I would strongly disagree that going from a top 100 prospect to early entrant drafted #17 does not demonstrate development.
And just in case thatâs too many negatives to followâŚDJ Wilsonâs draft result was way better than his recruiting ranking.
Jury is still out on Teske, obviously.
I mean, of course the chances are better with highly ranked bigs, and Iâm sure JB would prefer Kessler over Skogman.
Also, some (probably accidental) revisionist history. From the commit post, Teske had offers from OSU, Miami, and Dayton when he committed (interest from IU, PU, and Wisky), was not ranked by rivals or 247 and was a 3 star to scout.
DJ Wilson ended up 123 on the composite. At the time of his commitment was a three star to all the services and 162 on the composite.
Meanwhile, Wagner had not a single other offer from the United States, was unranked, and was getting some very meh reviews from some self-professed scouts on this forum.