Thanks Dylan. Two more questions if you have the time:
- Will we have Dakich back?
- Why do we want Dawkins, another wing, after adding MAAR? Why not save the scholarship for a chance at the Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk or a 2015 player?
Dawkins is more of a 3 type, MAAR more of a 2. Dawkins has a bigger frame, bouncy athlete. They want him for depth too.
Haven’t heard much about Mykhailiuk… Probably a lot of things to figure out there.
Don’t know why Dakich wouldn’t be back?
Apparently Dawkins left UD this morning, wonder when he announces?
If we miss out on either guy, Harris and Sviat or a 5th year big would be nice but could understand banking it. Sviat would be nice because MAAR or Wilson could redshirt and Chatman could strictly learn the 4. AST ends this weekend so expect movement on that front.
This has quickly become one of my favorite threads on the internet. And I’ve also been trying to keep up with the recruiting madness across different sites. But what is the status of Eron Harris? I read somewhere he can’t be contacted until sometime in May.
Bring back the H-Bomb!
This has quickly become one of my favorite threads on the internet. And I've also been trying to keep up with the recruiting madness across different sites. But what is the status of Eron Harris? I read somewhere he can't be contacted until sometime in May.Bring back the H-Bomb!
Yes, can’t contacted until the semester is over, but Sam Webb says we have no interest.
uh-oh
Just this morning UCLA had a school opne up when Jordan Adams decided todeclare for NBA. Cole Huff was interested in UCLA. Now…? Will he get a look?
I’m ambivalent about Cole Huff. He looks like a quality player, but doesn’t fill a strong need for us, with Chatman, Wilson and Donnal also possibly playing a 4 in two years, when Huff become eligible. If we could land a freshman big that was good enough to contribute immediately, or a grad transfer who would be eligible right away, but not take up a Scholie next year, I’d say grab them, but I’m not sure if either is available and interested at this point. Otherwise, I’d say just bank the last two spots for next year. That would leave us a tad thin on bodies, but no more so than last season.
Donnal is a 5, Wilson will take years to be a starter and Huff allows Chatman to slide to the 3. He absolutely fills a need.
As for UCLA, expect them to go after Elijah Stewart or bank for a more highly regarded 2015 recruit.
Donnal is a 5, Wilson will take years to be a starter and Huff allows Chatman to slide to the 3. He absolutely fills a need.As for UCLA, expect them to go after Elijah Stewart or bank for a more highly regarded 2015 recruit.
I agree. Taking Huff is a no brainer for the way Beilein likes to play. An athletic 3/4 who shoots 40% on threes.
Donnal is a stretch 4 who would be playing mainly on the perimeter if we had Horford or McGary back, or weren’t otherwise strapped for anybody at all capable of playing inside. As far as Wilson, I envy you your crystal ball concerning the career of somebody who hasn’t even put the uniform on. Did your clairvoyance also predict that 3 star Stauskas would start as a true freshman and be Big Ten POY as a sophomore and off to the NBA? How many years did your crystal ball tell you it would take LeVert to be a starter when he stepped on campus?
I’m not saying at all that Huff wouldn’t be a decent player for us, but if we take him, we’re left with only one open spot for 2015, which means that if we take one of the Jalens, we have no room to even try to find another big (which really IS a need, unless Doyle completely blows up). By the time we know if LeVert, Walton or Irvin are leaving early, it’ll probably be too late to sign anybody else decent (which, incidentally, is another advantage of keeping most of your players for four years-you have a better idea who’s leaving and who isn’t, instead of always being on pins and needles about 2 or 3 guys after the tournament is over, and having to scramble for late signees when they decide to bail).
Donnal is a stretch 4
Beilein on Donnal “We have loved Mark’s potential from the first time we saw him,” said Beilein. “He is very skilled, has the ability to shoot, and is very young so he will grow into his body. We like the idea that he is a developing big with a very high ceiling. At 6-9 he will be tough enough to play center”
And you can’t predict if WIlson can produce early which is why you take Huff.
And the coaching staff has said they are now prepared for early entry with LeVert more than the past few cycles. Max and Hatch already open 2 spots, which is plenty enough.
Donnal is a stretch 4 who would be playing mainly on the perimeter if we had Horford or McGary back, or weren't otherwise strapped for anybody at all capable of playing inside. As far as Wilson, I envy you your crystal ball concerning the career of somebody who hasn't even put the uniform on. Did your clairvoyance also predict that 3 star Stauskas would start as a true freshman and be Big Ten POY as a sophomore and off to the NBA? How many years did your crystal ball tell you it would take LeVert to be a starter when he stepped on campus?I’m not saying at all that Huff wouldn’t be a decent player for us, but if we take him, we’re left with only one open spot for 2015, which means that if we take one of the Jalens, we have no room to even try to find another big (which really IS a need, unless Doyle completely blows up). By the time we know if LeVert, Walton or Irvin are leaving early, it’ll probably be too late to sign anybody else decent (which, incidentally, is another advantage of keeping most of your players for four years-you have a better idea who’s leaving and who isn’t, instead of always being on pins and needles about 2 or 3 guys after the tournament is over, and having to scramble for late signees when they decide to bail).
That is why I am so confused as to why Dawkins was offered.
Donnal is a stretch 4Beilein on Donnal “We have loved Mark’s potential from the first time we saw him,” said Beilein. “He is very skilled, has the ability to shoot, and is very young so he will grow into his body. We like the idea that he is a developing big with a very high ceiling. At 6-9 he will be tough enough to play center”
And you can’t predict if WIlson can produce early which is why you take Huff.
And the coaching staff has said they are now prepared for early entry with LeVert more than the past few cycles. Max and Hatch already open 2 spots, which is plenty enough.
What do you know about Max?
Where do we get an open spot from Hatch? As you yourself have pointed out on several occasions, Beilein has said that he’s on regular scholarship. Until Beilein says differently, that spot can’t be considered open.
And as far as Donnal, he may be “tough enough” to play center, but he’s still a stretch 4. Morgan was a 5, Horford was a 5, Doyle will be a 5. Donnal will play far more on the perimeter than any of them, and you know that.
As far as Wilson, no, no one KNOWS how he’ll develop, but you never do. Nevertheless, you can only take so many guys in one slot before you have to go with what you have and fill other needs.
Well, I’d imagine Donnal will start out as a five based simply on numbers. Doyle isn’t going to start at the five, neither is Max (he’s 6-6), and Chatman and Wilson are fours (and ideally Chatman would be a wing, but probably won’t for the time being).
The other issue with Donnal being a stretch four is that Beilein usually likes his four man to have some ball handling ability. Chatman would of course bring that to the table, and he’s an exceptional passer. From what I’ve read on Donnal, that wouldn’t be his strong suit.
I think Huff would actually fit in quite nicely - by 2015, the starting lineup would potentially look like this: Walton, Chatman, Irvin, Huff, Donnal. Wilson and Doyle would be the two bigs off the bench.
Also, it’s a foregoing conclusion Hatch will eventually be on a medical scholarship, there’s a good chance Max doesn’t get a 5th year, and the coaches know Levert is gone after next year. Thus, even if we took Dawkins and Huff, we should be able to give three in 2015.
JB is recruiting 2015 prospects so JB obviously expects open scholarships.
JB thinks Donnal is a center so Donnal is a center.
We have 2 stretch 4s and JB obviously feels a third won’t hurt.
I’ll eat my hat if Donnal is not playing the 5 this coming season.
Any insight as to why we are not in on the South Florida Center that is transferring? He sounds like the shot blocking/rebounder that we desperately need. I realize he is not eligible until next year, but I still think he would bring a skill set we will lack in 2015.
Any insight as to why we are not in on the South Florida Center that is transferring
Just a thought, not necessarily a reason why the staff is not pursuing him. He would have sophomore eligibility after sitting out the 2014-2015 season. That would put him, Donnal and Doyle possibly in the same class. Seems not terribly wise to have three players at the same position in one class to me.
Any insight as to why we are not in on the South Florida Center that is transferringJust a thought, not necessarily a reason why the staff is not pursuing him. He would have sophomore eligibility after sitting out the 2014-2015 season. That would put him, Donnal and Doyle possibly in the same class. Seems not terribly wise to have three players at the same position in one class to me.
Yea maybe, unless Doyle redshirts, which they may not have the luxury of doing. I’m just hoping it is not due to style of play. JB talked about getting a shotblocker on the team in the wake of the new defensive rules. We only got the real Mitch for a few weeks in 2012 and it made such a huge difference to have that shot blocking/rebounding beast down low and I don’t see anyone on our roster adequately filling that void.