Forgot about espn+, that’s definitely higher than peacock
You think? I feel like the fact that they are almost always throwaway games (most MM stuff has radio broadcasters) makes it feel 5th tier.
Peacock at least produces things like they are national broadcasts IMO.
I’d also put FloSports at 672.
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I think significantly more people have espn+ than peacock. Especially due to the Disney bundle
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Interesting. Google/Wiki says ESPN+/Peacock are both around 25 million. Somehow Paramount+ is listed at 60 million which feels crazy to me.
ESPN+ is only available in the USA while peacock and paramount are available in many countries
Think that 24 mil number is US though, Peacock adds just 2 million subscribers ahead of price hike - The Verge.
Will be interesting to see how it grows. There’s close to a critical mass of sports content there, but I personally don’t really think of it as a place to go for TV content (similar to Paramount+ in that regard). I’m sure there’s more interest in some of the network-extended type stuff that I’m not familiar with, but right now I feel like streaming services fall in two buckets.
Places I go to watch shows/movies (Netflix, Apple TV, Hulu, Max, Prime) and places I go to watch sports (Peacock, Paramount, ESPN+, etc.). Obviously, there’s some crossover (MLS on Apple, TNF on Amazon) but I also feel like it is hard to compete on both fronts.
I don’t like that huge games are going to be on Peacock. But I think we’ll have to wait and see on any change in “national reach”. There’s still going to be tons of games on at regular times on normal channels. It’s not like B1G basketball will be unreachable for random fans.
The main thing I’ve been wondering is will ESPN be able to continue to spin the narrative of the sport (and really all sports)
It would be fascinating to see how ESPN handles a situation where you had a Zion-level star in the Big Ten.
I don’t really watch any of ESPN’s non-college-hoops coverage, but it isn’t exactly like they are pushing CBB in their daily talk shows and stuff like that or anything at this point is it?
You basically are losing the lead-in audience to the national games on Tuesdays though. Stuff like CBB GameDay just doesn’t seem to move the needle anymore.
The national TV slot Big Ten hoops games on FOX/CBS are still basically as big as it gets for the sport IMO.
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FloSports is so bad it should be illegal.
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Looks like Michigan/Oregon will be a 12:30 Pacific time tip on FS1.
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You can also be Iowa and have zero games on the Peacock and share in the money.
Some of you are overdue for a 3 week binge of The Office, and it shows. #PeacockLife
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The 24 million number is worldwide. Peacock is the 16th largest streaming service: Top Streaming Services by Subscribers • FlixPatrol
Have you guys watched any SEC or B12 games on ESPN+ over the past 3 years or so? That’s basically the equivalent of this.
Not FlixPatrol, but from the article above:
Peacock added just 2 million subscribers over the past three months, bringing the service up to 24 million subscribers in the US
Maybe that’s wrong, don’t really care either way.
Just think that Peacock is handling things differently for hoops in the sense that it seems like they are putting real resources toward it.
Dylan do you know if at some time there will be basketball games on actual NBC?
I don’t think there’s anything in the contract preventing them from putting games on NBC if they wanted (not positive, though) but it seems quite clear that their intention is taking on the Tuesday/Thursday ESPN inventory, which wouldn’t make sense on NBC.
Paramount+ has non-English content, Peacock is English only
Thought the difference was solely because Paramount+ has Big Meeks.
Paramount is a client of mine and they are making a huge push for foreign originals on the platform which may account for the “surprise” of 60m+ subs. They want their content library more linguistically diverse. Candidly it got off to a poor start as CBS All Access – part of the original model was that they would launch a pilot on terrestrial CBS and then continue the show on the streaming platform. It didn’t work. Leaning into non-English is their pivot
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