2025-26 NBA Discussion

Talk about a college all star team

I kind of wish G league teams were more regional. In terms of the last 5 guys on the roster.

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The Bulls have played 16 clutch minutes. Their defensive rating is 58.8. That is why they’re 6-1. Bulls opponents are shooting 9/32 from the field, 1/11 from 3 and have taken just ONE free throw.

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70-12 pace

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cc: @colin @mgl

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FACT (yes filter this is a full sentence)

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It looks like the Pistons are going to be tied for the best record in the East if the Bucks hold on to their lead against the Bulls.

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Cade had 34 points and 10 assists and Duren had 30 points, 11 rebounds, and 3 steals. It was vs. the Nets but they were without Tobias (and Ivey) and lost Isaiah Stewart to a nasty ankle twist early in the 2nd quarter. They continue the road trip at the 76ers on Sunday.

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Tied for the best record in the East and 4-0 against the West!

EDIT: All alone in first place!

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OK, so I suffer from anxiety driven sleep-maintenance insomnia, I’m bored, so I’m going to fire off some NBA takes here to spark conversation. I know the season is young, I know the samples are small. I have league pass, I’ve seen every team at least once save: The Clippers (I just hate watching them), The Jazz (why?), The Nets (same). I think that’s true, off the top of my head.

Teams that have been meaningfully better than I thought in a way that I think may matter long term:

The Sixers (will mention them more later) - Embiid’s stats are ok when he’s out there, but he really hasn’t helped them - they just have three guards who have been buckets so far (and a fourth on his way back?). George isn’t a star anymore, but an elite shooter, when he returns, would be a nice add.

The Pistons - I think they seem meaningfully better, mostly because of their defense. I thought they’d be a protected seed again, somewhere around 4-6. I think the defense has been so good for the most part (and some of the teams I liked in the East will be on the inverse of this list), they look like a top 3 seed.

The Lakers - I don’t like this anymore than anyone else, but whoever plays with the ball puts up a 45/12 every night, so IDK.

Teams that have been meaningfully worse than I thought in a way that matters.

The Mavericks - I didn’t think these guys would be awesome, but I was pretty sure on 40+ wins, and they just aren’t anywhere close. Their frontcourt depth doesn’t matter if none of the three can play over 40 games, they tried to start a lineup where nobody could dribble at an NBA level with predictable results, and now the team is revolving around DLo. Flagg has been objectionably bad, but this team is almost engineered in a lab to make him look terrible. Davis is fat!

The Magic - a large part of the Pistons’ rise in my estimation. Bane just stands in the corner, they have no idea how to work him in. The huge investments in Wagner and Banchero look more and more like investments in fringe all-stars (I think this was the expectation for Wagner, certainly was not for Paolo), Isaac being done hurts. They still can’t and don’t shoot threes.

The Hawks - Young’s injury obviously is nobody’s fault and hurts here, but everyone I was sort of optimistic about helping them hasn’t been very good - probably leading with the fact nobody can shoot outside Kennard so far. Losing Tre will strong effect both offense and defense in inverse directions, but he’s played 5 of their 7 games, it’s hard to say this team should be 22nd in offense. Also, net, they’re about the worst rebounding team outside the Celtics, which I guess was predictable given the roster.

Players who have been meaningfully better than I expected in a way that may sustain:

Tyrese Maxey - He’s not going to shoot 47% from three, admittedly, but he’s at a comfortable career high in basically every metric, and he’s a guy who, basically every season of his career save last, has been better than I thought he’d be. Last year all the injuries left him to be the man, and he couldn’t do it - this year, he’s been able to at about the same usage. He’s also managed to stop being dead-meat defensively, which is extremely difficult at his size.

Isaiah Stewart - I just didn’t see ā€œDPOYā€ (non-Victor division) coming? He’s played at the level. Needs more minutes!

Jaime Jacquez Jr. - Was ready to write him off last year, but he’s awesome, and it’s not hot shooting (his 3’s have been terrible). He’s just been a bully, bangs guys into the post and scores/draws fouls, and his passing chops are really shining. Easy 6MOY leader.

Players who have fallen short of expectations in a meaningful way

Paolo Banchero - This is part of where their leap was supposed to come from, and he’s just the same guy. Part of the theory of the team here is that they can live with a sub-par facilitator at PG (because Suggs does other things) because Franz and especially Banchero are ++ passers for their spots, and that just doesn’t seem to be the case. They’re not BAD passers, but not enough to cover for the lack of a PG. This offense just becomes Paolo and Franz pounding the rock way too much, and I’m critcizing Paolo partly because I’m a homer, but also because Paolo, not Franz, was supposed to be The Guy - if they’re equivalent (they are), he’s falling short.

Zion Williamson & Ja Morant - availability was always theoretically the major problem here (for different reasons), but Zion was generally awesome when he was on the floor, and it was easy to trick yourself into thinking that all of Morant’s ā€œstuffā€ was preventing him from really ever coming back. But both these guys have played so far, I think they are just very obviously not what they were, forget what people thought they’d become. A version of Zion that shoots 48% from 2 is simply a bad player, not even a good one. Ja is probably at least a league-average PG on the merits, but it’s increasingly obvious he’s just a grenade with pin pulled at all times, and ā€œleague average PG’sā€ aren’t worth all that.

Anthony Davis - I will admit that I have always disliked him - he’s so obviously extremely gifted, but wrapped in a laconic, low effort, just wimpy package. The exagerrated falls 200 times a game, always looking like he’s just sustained a career ending injury…I can’t take him. But I always thought he was mostly good! He doesn’t play defense anymore, he doesn’t run the floor, he’s overweight. He can still score in the post, but that’s really it - he’s washed!

Rookies who have performed in a way that makes me re-evaluate my take:

VJ Edgecombe - Knew he was a high character kid, but I thought he was a reach, and if had to choose, 6 months ago, the top 5 pick that would bust, this is it. I don’t think I realized how much his athleticism would pop. He won’t keep shooting this well, but I was worried he’d fall into ā€œbench energy guyā€ world, and I think that’s not happening.

Dillon Harper - I thought he’d be good, but that it would take time. No, it just turns out he’s very good, like now!

Cedric Coward - The draft’s late-riser, the dude who went from under-the-radar to lottery. He’s just a beast, very obviously going to be a $30 million player. Grizzlies do lots of things wrong as a franchise, but their talent evals are pretty unimpeachable.

Khaman Maluach - For a team with basically no draft assests or cap-space due to the stretching of Beal going forward, passing on that Pelicans pick to draft a guy who can’t get on the floor is roooouuuuugh. Oso Ighadaro is a nice find and Nick Richards I guess scratches ā€œcompetencyā€ but the bar to SOME playing time here isn’t very high.

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I wonder if Orlando needs to trade one of the two players for a PG. Moseley isn’t a good Xs and Os coach!

Just testing the theory here…

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Banchero is empty calories.

He’s just not doing the thing he was supposed to

this is often a problem with college/ scouting is that people see big guys who ā€œcanā€ handle or pass as an example and extrapolate it forward but it doesn’t get to the crux of ā€œok but are they GOOD at it, like over mediocre?ā€

Banchero CAN handle and pass some in the NBA context but not well enough to pin your offense to

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Drummond can shoot threes???

Big win for the Pistons in Philly without Stew Harris Ivey.

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Okay fine don’t embed https://x.com/statmuse/status/1987718122166497549

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My favorite was Cade throwing one down on Drummond

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This part (video included) after Reed and Bona each got a tech made me laugh:

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Cade is the best player in the East other than Giannis. I will not accept any rebuttal from anyone on this.

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