EJ Liddell’s slide surprised me, for sure. I just think he’s better than Roddy as far as prospects who are both older. Maybe there’s some reason for Liddell’s slide though.
Guys like Baldwin, Christie, Watson, Houstan going where they did seems pretty obvious. You are gambling on guys who would have been taken in the top 20 by a team that spent the last year in a coma. These are young promising assets who have been tracked for years and are worth betting on despite one disappointing season in college.
I’m surprised Hardy fell as far as he did. GL Ignite cost him a lot of coin.
Houstan, Baldwin, and Watson remind me of BJ Boston and Greg Brown last year. Haven’t looked but there are probably a handful of those highly ranked HS recruits every year that go in the 2nd after a year in school.
Overtime Elite went 0-2 with Jean Montero and Dom Barlow. Who knows what happens if they went to college but it’s hard to say OTE helped them at all (other than getting paid, which of course matters)
I know that you’re mostly rolling the dice on “potential” in the NBA draft but still seems odd. Also, guys like Baldwin and Roddy were bad at the combine…BAD…and it didn’t hurt them at all. Guys who struggled once they faced better competition in college didn’t hurt them either. I know that these NBA guys know infinitely more than me - just seems like on-court play is the least important indicator for a lot of picks.
One thing that probably hurts Liddell is his shooting. yes, he shot the ball well at OSU but his shots were flat and apparently he struggled to shoot from NBA 3s. If that’s true then it explains the slide.
Montero shows as unranked on 24/7 composite, but that seems wrong? Barlow was #117 in the class, so I think it’s hard to say they cost him money really?
Serious question for the board… Is there a legit chance that there is more upside with Joey Baker this year now that we realize he was the captain of a team who had 5 players picked in the top-42 of the NBA draft?? I’m not saying he’s going to be elite or anything, but could some of our modest projections of “bench shooter who plays 15mpg” be underselling what he can provide knowing he was sitting behind all of those NBA guys and now walks into a role where Jett and TWill are the only forwards “ahead” of him?
To be fair, I personally (I’m sure it really matters!) don’t really take the combine as much - if guys play well (Baldwin didn’t do that, but Roddy did) I tend to put more stock on that. I’m trying to think of how many workout warriors (like Patrick Williams a few years ago, Dalen Terry and Sochan this year) work out.
Oh, I agree. I wasn’t suggesting that being a workout warrior should push you up the draft. I was suggesting that a bad combine should drop you when you’re evaluating guys who are going to have to defend the best athletes in the world. Especially since these guys all prepare like crazy for the combine drills specifically.
So if Hardy wouldn’t have even played last year like Shadeon Sharpe did, does he end up going top 10 too instead of 37 due to struggling in the G League?
The more I think about Joey Baker the more I like the move too but let’s not get too far ahead of things.
As a JAS and veteran presence he is a great add. Duke’s all iso-ball all the time offense did not help him and working inside out via Hunter should help. But returning from his hip injury is a real concern and I can’t see him topping out beyond 20, maaaaybe 25 minutes.
Not too into Terry for the Bulls but I guess there are some models out there that like him and Sam is a Terry fan. Supposedly he can put the clamps on but when your usage is that low your stocks should be through the roof and his are pretty meh. Shooting is just okay. 195 lbs and 6’6’’ in socks w an 8’10’’ reach is kind of a mixed bag? If he can put on weight, I at least get the concept. Guard 1-4, playmake a little, shoot it okay.
Poor Patrick Ewing. Even when he does everything right and recruits the hometown, top 30 (but not top 6) kid in Aminu Muhammad, the kid leaves after one year to go undrafted.