I definitely think Todd helped himself more in Ignite than he would have at Michigan.
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Careful, to college basketball puristsā¦thatās blasphemy.
But true.
Yeah 100% right decision, likely for both parties. And I like him as a 1st rounder, more for if a bad team has a traded late pick than for a contender. Peopleās salt comes from how it went down and how he was clowning people who were suggesting he was going pro
He clowned people? What do you mean?
I feel like some of the issue is you have to have a pro deal to go proā¦ It was pretty widely reported that there was a chance he would explore pro options right?
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Yes, it was widely reported. Then heād post on Instagram stories saying they were BS or tweeting that they were lying when people offered opinions that heād end up going pro. Denying rumors that he was anything but 100% going to Michigan. I personally donāt care much because it gave us your infamous āNote: ācapā is slang for lieā article. And it probably got him into the first round and made Michiganās rotations much easier. Like I said, win win.
What was he supposed to say? As far as I can remember, he didnāt really do interviews ever either.
I feel like ādeny the thing that might happen but hasnāt happened yetā is pretty common.
There was a lot more funny business and clowning with how the Christopher thing went down.
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I mean those were generally about playing overseas; the ignite offer changed some things
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People donāt leave you alone til they get an answer. He doesnāt have to say anything but he also might not want to keep getting hounded for a response to the rumors. If you say thereās some truth to the rumors, theyāll still come after you.
Think itās pretty silly to criticize a teenager for his PR strategies.
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In fairness, the G-League option came very late in the process. I still to this day think he would have ended up at Michigan if his only pro option was going overseas during a pandemic. But you get offered 6 figures to stay in LA for a year and train/play with pros and it starts to sound like a pretty pretty good gig. I didnāt fault him at all for making that decision after it presented itself
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Chill out my man, you need to calm down and step off your pedestal. Iām not ācriticizing a teenagerās PR,ā Iām offering a potential explanation for why a portion of M fans are salty. Thereās a portion of fans who seem to actively root for him to fail and Iām trying to offer up potential reasons why theyāre pissy Take a damn step back before attacking someone. Iāll delete my scandalous attacks if it makes you feel better.
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Yeah this is all fair.
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I, for one, am not rooting against him, but I would be lying if what transpired last year didnāt rub me the wrong way. If he gave Juwan Howard an idea that he was seriously considering the pro option and didnāt leave UM high and dry, so be it. But if he didnāt, and kept leading the coaches on, then I think UM fans have reason to be salty. I donāt like giving people passes for doing that at 17/18 because theyāre ākids.ā A lot of people at that age know right from wrong and actively pursuing something else while being ācommittedā is the textbook definition of selfishness.
Adults leave for better jobs and opportunities all the time without letting their employer know until the new job has been accepted. Students transfer schools all the time. Doing something you think is better for your future is not selfish, unless anyone who leaves a job under contract is also selfish, which I donāt think they are.
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Something can be advantageous for someone and at the same time selfish, they are not mutually exclusive. If I take a job knowing that I am I also interviewing for a different position that pays higher, and then end up leaving 2 weeks into the job because I was just offered another position, how is that not selfish? Iāve essentially wasted the first companyās time and prevented other candidates from being offered the job.
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Yeah, this is right. I could tell my boss Iām not going anywhere on July 13th, but if on July 14th someone offers me 6 figures to play basketball in LA for a year then it doesnāt mean I was lying on July 13th. It just means the equation changed. GLeague Elite wasnāt a thing until it was a thing.
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I wish Todd didnāt do what he did in the immediate aftermath of the Christopher thing, but thatās not Toddās fault and I canāt blame him for how things went down. He had to play the media game the way it is played.
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Todd committed in the fall and didnāt leave for the G League til May, before ever playing a minute of basketball at Michigan and 6 months before the season started. College coaches make 6+ figures, they can handle that Iām sure.
As Adam pointed out as well, if new information becomes available, things change. Before G League was a serious option, Iām sure he was 100% committed. Either way, he did what he thought was best for himself in the long term and I canāt fault him for that.
Agree to disagree. I value loyalty and commitment. I canāt support someone that is so easily swayed into changing their mind.
I donāt fault Todd for choosing the route he chose because I canāt speak to his financial situation. All I can say is that I donāt support it.
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