Why? - no playing time and I think the players we currently have will believe UM over recruited and essentially eliminated their individual role (that is one thing why so many people hate Crean and IU). Think about how deep the roster would be and try to divide 40 minutes of playing time over 5 positions.
However I would be surprised if we did get another commitment for 2015 assuming Wagner is able to play for us.
Biancardi says Michigan/Cal
Webb had been hearing Michigan/Kansas
Brian Snow Michigan/Kentucky
Nice to see amongst different sources, one thing remains the same.
No one on this team is gonna be salty about a player that will make everybody better on the court and better for having to practice with/against him. Not to mention the elevated national exposure for a team that can advance further.
Why? - no playing time and I think the players we currently have will believe UM over recruited and essentially eliminated their individual role (that is one thing why so many people hate Crean and IU). Think about how deep the roster would be and try to divide 40 minutes of playing time over 5 positions.However I would be surprised if we did get another commitment for 2015 assuming Wagner is able to play for us.
Every school uses 13 scholarships, I donât see where Beilein is wrong about that. The only reason we may feel that way is because a lot of our bench had starter minutes last year because of injury. They came into Michigan thinking they would be bench players and ended up being starters. So I think they will survive sharing minutes again with seniors and juniors. Thatâs how the game goes, and every team is like that.
Why? - no playing time and I think the players we currently have will believe UM over recruited and essentially eliminated their individual role (that is one thing why so many people hate Crean and IU). Think about how deep the roster would be and try to divide 40 minutes of playing time over 5 positions.However I would be surprised if we did get another commitment for 2015 assuming Wagner is able to play for us.
Depth and talent are two very distinctive things. Itâs not about pleasing individual players, its about composing a team that performs well enough to win games. I think most would concede we lack elite talent âŚwe need a player of Brownâs caliber.
Actually, Iâm not concerned about âbad bloodâ. I, perhaps naively, donât believe JB would bring in a player no matter how talented he may be who wouldnât fit with the culture and makeup of the team, despite Mattâs contention that talent is all that matters. I know, Matt, you never said that. Iâm just playing with you. I also donât think JB would give Austin Hatchâs scholarship to anyone who would in any way disrupt the culture heâs built at Michigan. I really donât.
Matt, I absolutely agree with your comment about âtalent and depth,â and I do believe the players in our program would understand that as well, and that they would embrace the opportunity to play with a player of Brownâs elite talent.
IMHO, itâs a no-brainer to get a top 10 talent that Beilein and the coaches have interest in (that apparently is reciprocated) and worry about additional fallout later. I canât really imagine not taking someone like Mitch because the coaches may have been worried that Jordan Morgan felt slighted by ârecruiting over himâ.
Ok I know this is getting ahead of things, but if Brown came to Michigan you would have to get him in the starting line up. Would that mean Irvin as a mainstay at the 4 spot?
Ok I know this is getting ahead of things, but if Brown came to Michigan you would have to get him in the starting line up. Would that mean Irvin as a mainstay at the 4 spot?
On offense it wouldnât matter much, but on defense Brown would check the opposing 4âŚmuch bigger/stronger than Irvin.
If we get Brown I'm afraid there will be a lot of bad blood on the team from the Freshmen and Sophomores (stretch 4's and wings).
If so, then so be it. Nothing is guaranteed. Fight to earn every minute or maybe this isnât the place for you. That is the attitude this team needs to have.
Ok I know this is getting ahead of things, but if Brown came to Michigan you would have to get him in the starting line up. Would that mean Irvin as a mainstay at the 4 spot?
I would put Irvin as a 3 in that lineup and Brown as a 4. Again, in Beileinâs offense those numbers are just numbers when you think about it. But Brown doesnât have a great shot (much like GRIII) but is an awesome athletic finisher at the rim. Irvin would be the exact opposite IMO. Thatâs why I would see Brown running the baseline and being fed to finish at the rim, while Irvin would stretch the floor at the 3. With Irvinâs new passing abilities, that could be fantastic (not to mention Carisâ and Walton/Spikeâs)
Why? - no playing time and I think the players we currently have will believe UM over recruited and essentially eliminated their individual role (that is one thing why so many people hate Crean and IU). Think about how deep the roster would be and try to divide 40 minutes of playing time over 5 positions.However I would be surprised if we did get another commitment for 2015 assuming Wagner is able to play for us.
Spring Creaning is totally different IMO
Beilein doesnât chase guys off.
That line up would be disgusting. Our second five could finish in the top half of big ten easy. If jb pulls this off and finds the right line up and time to divvy out,we could be really really good.
Ok I know this is getting ahead of things, but if Brown came to Michigan you would have to get him in the starting line up. Would that mean Irvin as a mainstay at the 4 spot?I would put Irvin as a 3 in that lineup and Brown as a 4. Again, in Beileinâs offense those numbers are just numbers when you think about it. But Brown doesnât have a great shot (much like GRIII) but is an awesome athletic finisher at the rim. Irvin would be the exact opposite IMO. Thatâs why I would see Brown running the baseline and being fed to finish at the rim, while Irvin would stretch the floor at the 3. With Irvinâs new passing abilities, that could be fantastic (not to mention Carisâ and Walton/Spikeâs)
I think you may be selling Brown short if you envision him as primarily a baseline finisher. Heâs an isolation type of guy at the top of the key or PnR, nearly unstoppable because of his combination of size, ballhandling, and athleticism. His game translates much better for one on one ball vs a structured offensive set where he is relegated to coming off screens for catch and shoot scenarios. Much better with the ball than without.
I am curious about Jaylen Brownâs projected position, if he comes to Michigan too. One thing that I was very impressed with was Jaylen Brownâs rebounding. I could see Brown averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds per game easilyâespecially since Doyle and Donnal are not the best reboundersâŚIs the 4 position (at Michigan) better for rebounders?
Certainly it all could mean a step back for Irvins game because you would have to imagine Caris and Jaylen would be the recipients of most of the ball screens. You would have to keep this guys out at the top to run the show. Jaylen is too great at slashing off the bounce. But then again, Irvin would receive a disgusting amount of open shots.
Ok I know this is getting ahead of things, but if Brown came to Michigan you would have to get him in the starting line up. Would that mean Irvin as a mainstay at the 4 spot?I would put Irvin as a 3 in that lineup and Brown as a 4. Again, in Beileinâs offense those numbers are just numbers when you think about it. But Brown doesnât have a great shot (much like GRIII) but is an awesome athletic finisher at the rim. Irvin would be the exact opposite IMO. Thatâs why I would see Brown running the baseline and being fed to finish at the rim, while Irvin would stretch the floor at the 3. With Irvinâs new passing abilities, that could be fantastic (not to mention Carisâ and Walton/Spikeâs)
I think you may be selling Brown short if you envision him as primarily a baseline finisher. Heâs an isolation type of guy at the top of the key or PnR, nearly unstoppable because of his combination of size, ballhandling, and athleticism. His game translates much better for one on one ball vs a structured offensive set where he is relegated to coming off screens for catch and shoot scenarios. Much better with the ball than without.
You are describing an athletic PG with size basically. What do you think of his passing skills? Seemed pretty decent to me. His film does show all you are saying, so you are correct. The thing is, those plays you describe are âBrown onlyâ plays. We would definitely see those, but how would he fit as a piece of this team? i.e. what plays would be the most efficient with Brown, Levert, Walton and Irvin on the floor together?
Ok I know this is getting ahead of things, but if Brown came to Michigan you would have to get him in the starting line up. Would that mean Irvin as a mainstay at the 4 spot?I would put Irvin as a 3 in that lineup and Brown as a 4. Again, in Beileinâs offense those numbers are just numbers when you think about it. But Brown doesnât have a great shot (much like GRIII) but is an awesome athletic finisher at the rim. Irvin would be the exact opposite IMO. Thatâs why I would see Brown running the baseline and being fed to finish at the rim, while Irvin would stretch the floor at the 3. With Irvinâs new passing abilities, that could be fantastic (not to mention Carisâ and Walton/Spikeâs)
I think you may be selling Brown short if you envision him as primarily a baseline finisher. Heâs an isolation type of guy at the top of the key or PnR, nearly unstoppable because of his combination of size, ballhandling, and athleticism. His game translates much better for one on one ball vs a structured offensive set where he is relegated to coming off screens for catch and shoot scenarios. Much better with the ball than without.
You are describing an athletic PG with size basically. What do you think of his passing skills? Seemed pretty decent to me. His film does show all you are saying, so you are correct. The thing is, those plays you describe are âBrown onlyâ plays. We would definitely see those, but how would he fit as a piece of this team? i.e. what plays would be the most efficient with Brown, Levert, Walton and Irvin on the floor together?
I definitely think we can use Brown at the FT line vs zone defenses, the defense would no doubt collapse because of Brownâs finishing ability, where he could give the dump off to a big or kick it out for 3. Also think Brown could be used in the pinch post much the same we used GR3 vs. Arizona. Most of all, you would have to assume JB would be more inclined to run with Walton, Levert, and BrownâŚwith that type of lineup he would simply have to live with a few more TOs. Those 3 would be lethal on a break with Irvin trailing for the 3.
Well damnâŚ
Jaylen Brown refutes report that he's trimmed list to Michigan, California http://t.co/l4LWvsHKCZ pic.twitter.com/Tt6hf0P4vb
â Brendan F. Quinn (@BFQuinn) April 22, 2015
To be fair, there was no âreportâ that he was down to two schools. Biancardi just said he heard he could end up at either. Pretty big difference in my opinion.