His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162
Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach says he’s buying, which is distinct from actually buying it. What AAU coach is going to explicitly say ‘yeah, we’ll take a pass’…exactly.
Just don’t think skill development is something that is enticing to elite, one and done, type players. The number 1 thing that can help them is just giving them the ball and getting the hell out of there way in my opinion.
Doesn’t it still depend on the player? I mean for the little I know about Brown is that he is not the typical high level prospect that just thinks that he already has all the tools, and it’s just about showcasing it for the league. He seems to legitimately want to develop as a player, and he doesn’t care about being treated as a king.
Again, this is my personal feeling towards him, and this might not be true. Only he and his parents know that. If he only cares about exposing his current talent, then I agree, Michigan is not the place for him.
But if he does truly care about getting better, I think we have as much a shot as anyone.
I certainly think there is some merit to your contention, just don’t know how much better you can get in 6 months…which is why I think the development angle is irrelevant.
His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162
Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach says he’s buying, which is distinct from actually buying it. What AAU coach is going to explicitly say ‘yeah, we’ll take a pass’…exactly.
Just don’t think skill development is something that is enticing to elite, one and done, type players. The number 1 thing that can help them is just giving them the ball and getting the hell out of there way in my opinion.
I agree and I am not sure Beilein is willing to do that. A quote a couple weeks from Beilein was along the lines of “thank goodness I don’t have 1 and done players.” I think what would help Michigan most is if Beilein started to embrace the 1 and done player.
If I were an elite recruit...............I would want to know this, what can you do for me that another school cannot? Reiterating the fact that you've sent a few guys to the league would be absolutely meaningless to me, because I know that I'm going to be a lottery pick regardless.
I would want to know exactly how I would be used in the offense that would better prepare me for the NBA…and I just don’t think we have a particularly strong argument for that, because our guys haven’t really been successful in the NBA. That said, I think it would all come down to what I referenced before - will he constantly have the ball in his hands in either isolation or PnR sets that would replicate an NBA situation.
It’s not reiterating that you’ve sent other guys to the league, it’s pointing to your development of those guys. Focusing on the fundamental things that you worked on that transformed those guys who had a fraction of your talent into NBA players. It’s also not what this school can do for you that another one can’t, it’s what do you want from a school?
If you want to handle the ball all the time, not have to work on other aspects of your game, and generally be the man, there are plenty of places that will let you do that. That is not a differentiator. Kentucky has players condos and all the amenities, that is a difference maker, but he supposedly doesn’t care about that. Another school could probably offer him financial compensation, but then there are many that would do that.
There is no one school that can do something that no other school cannot or won’t.
I disagree…UK, Duke, and the like can offer exposure. You discount it, but the ‘rock star’ element of those schools is certainly something that better prepares you for the NBA from a maturation and cultural standpoint. The NBA is the ‘rock star’ life…and I honestly don’t think we can prepare him for that. That being said, if he doesn’t care about that, then maybe we are are even footing relatively speaking.
My point was only to counter your statement that “If I were an elite recruit…I would want to know this, what can you do for me that another school cannot?” In your retort, you point out UK, Duke, and the like. You essentially made my point. There is no ONE school that can offer a recruit something that no other school could not.
His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162
Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach says he’s buying, which is distinct from actually buying it. What AAU coach is going to explicitly say ‘yeah, we’ll take a pass’…exactly.
Just don’t think skill development is something that is enticing to elite, one and done, type players. The number 1 thing that can help them is just giving them the ball and getting the hell out of there way in my opinion.
I frankly don’t see how you would have any clue what these kids are thinking. There are a million different possible reasons why a kid choses one school over another.
His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162
Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach says he’s buying, which is distinct from actually buying it. What AAU coach is going to explicitly say ‘yeah, we’ll take a pass’…exactly.
Just don’t think skill development is something that is enticing to elite, one and done, type players. The number 1 thing that can help them is just giving them the ball and getting the hell out of there way in my opinion.
I frankly don’t see how you would have any clue what these kids are thinking. There are a million different possible reasons why a kid choses one school over another.
Never claimed to know what he was thinking. Just offered my opinion
I’ll be that guy, I haven’t seen enough of Jaylen Brown to see can’t miss, where have you guys seen him? I’m sure he can go one and done off of projections alone, but have any of you watched him play in person? Or is it the same highlight film I’ve seen? What am I missing here? Josh Jackson looks to be a better prospect IMO. Watching Jaylen Brown highlights, I see Jimmy King with 3 additional inches in height IJS.
I'll be that guy, I haven't seen enough of Jaylen Brown to see can't miss, where have you guys seen him? I'm sure he can go one and done off of projections alone, but have any of you watched him play in person? Or is it the same highlight film I've seen? What am I missing here? Josh Jackson looks to be a better prospect IMO. Watching Jaylen Brown highlights, I see Jimmy King with 3 additional inches in height IJS.
To compare Jaylen Brown to Jimmy King is so absurd its not even worth a response.
Yet you gave a response–a condescending one with absolutely zero value added.
And your response added what exactly? The hypocrisy and double standards from some are laughable
The 'Michigan guys haven't done very well in the NBA' is a bit harsh or at least premature.
Tim has played far above expectations for a late first round pick I’d say. Trey has had some struggles, but he’s certainly a use-case for how to showcase a player for the NBA. Mitch has been great since he’s been healthy.
Nik has struggled sure, but how many rookies have been great? It’s not like he’s out of the league.
The idea that Michigan would pitch is look how we got these guys to the league and they weren’t even expected to be there. Imagine how much more skilled – Brown needs to shoot it better and improve his left – you can be after working on your game here.
Not saying that is going to win him over, but it’s at least a valid pitch IMO.
For Dylan and those of you that agree that I’m being ‘a bit harsh or premature’ - read this NBA perspective on Burke…long story short the guy is historically inefficient and bad. Reality is that a 5’11 chucker that can’t finish, is slow, and can’t find his 3 point shot…probably isn’t going to be very good in the NBA.
Have you, or do you plan on, conducting any more interviews with Brown/his parents?
We’re trying to get in touch. As I wrote before, tough to get in contact. I don’t really think it’s a Michigan thing as much as it’s a Jaylen Brown keeps a pretty low profile thing. He’s been in this spot for a while so I certainly wouldn’t expect for him to show his hand in an interview at this stage.
He’ll be at a bunch of national events soon though, so I suspect we’ll see him quoted at Dick’s Nationals, McD game, etc.
Jaylen Brown on staying in state: it’s important for those coaches to recruit all the talent in georgia - and I love my home state
Jaylen cont’d: “but that’s all I’ll say about that.” No timeline for a decision given…called it a whirlwind of visits.
Ha! Well he isn’t signed to anyone yet. I’m going to guess Andrew Wiggins still has an impressive collection of Jordans even though he signed to Adidas (I know he played with a Nike AAU team)
I don’t get why a 1 and done elite prospect would want to play go UCLA. The lack of national exposure does not help increase their status the way playing regularly on ESPN for Duke or someone else would. Also, their fanbase is embarrassingly bad for what is suppose to be a blue blood program.
There is not a single shoe that adidas makes that makes kids say, "I want those." That's what Jordan's do, especially those.
Couldn’t agree more, the 11s are probably the best gym shoe ever made. I remember when those shoes initially dropped in 1995/96 (prior to the days of internet ordering for you youngsters!), people were literally staying overnight at local Foot Lockers to get those shoes…probably a few dozen killings across the country, and hundreds of injuries stemming from brawls, stampedes, etc.
I don't get why a 1 and done elite prospect would want to play go UCLA. The lack of national exposure does not help increase their status the way playing regularly on ESPN for Duke or someone else would. Also, their fanbase is embarrassingly bad for what is suppose to be a blue blood program.
As I referenced before…if you have to make a 6 month stop, what place in the country offers the combination of beautiful weather, beautiful women, night life, and just overall energy that Los Angeles does…I can think of none.
I don't get why a 1 and done elite prospect would want to play go UCLA. The lack of national exposure does not help increase their status the way playing regularly on ESPN for Duke or someone else would. Also, their fanbase is embarrassingly bad for what is suppose to be a blue blood program.
I know we’re not a blue blood program, but our fan base isn’t exactly buzzing either. One bad year and the students and rich alums stop showing up!
I don't get why a 1 and done elite prospect would want to play go UCLA. The lack of national exposure does not help increase their status the way playing regularly on ESPN for Duke or someone else would. Also, their fanbase is embarrassingly bad for what is suppose to be a blue blood program.
I know we’re not a blue blood program, but our fan base isn’t exactly buzzing either. One bad year and the students and rich alums stop showing up!
Illinois, Wisconsin, MSU certainly aren’t blueblood programs, but their crowds are much more lively than Crisler. We have a ‘wine and cheese’ crowd
(I know he played with a Nike AAU team)