Brown doesn’t speak much to anyone FWIW. As is the case for a lot of top-level prospects. He’s been pretty even-keeled through the whole process. We’re trying to get an update.
Brown will be at a bunch of all star games and national events coming up though so should start to be a lot of interviews.
Dylan, do you know the date he plans to announce?
Brown also visited Cal today and yesterday (unofficial).
@KnBlue: A while ago he had talked about potentially announcing at the McD AA game, but haven’t seen him mention that recently.
Part of the Cal interest could stem from the fact that Cal is the likely favorite to land Ivan Rabb. If I had to pick someone, I still think UCLA might be the team to beat for Brown though.
Part of the Cal interest could stem from the fact that Cal is the likely favorite to land Ivan Rabb. If I had to pick someone, I still think UCLA might be the team to beat for Brown though.
Having lived there the majority of my life, its really hard for a kid not to be enamored with LA. The place just has that energy about it…in addition to the best weather in the country, beautiful women, and an historically good basketball program. Hard to stack up against that
Hopefully with the UNC situation he is pushed away from there and it comes down to UM and UCLA.
Having lived there the majority of my life, its really hard for a kid not to be enamored with LA. The place just has that energy about it........in addition to the best weather in the country, beautiful women, and an historically good basketball program. Hard to stack up against that
While I hear that, having spent a ton of time in LA as a kid, I strongly considered UCLA and Michigan for college, and there is a certain shallowness to the culture there (within the university itself, not just the typical stereotypes about Southern CA) that comes through really strongly. I don’t mean that to bash UCLA (though there’s something distasteful about Alford’s teams there that remind me of Fisher’s post-Fab-5 teams), but simply to say…for particular types of people, Michigan will feel like a better fit. I have no idea which side of the fence Brown would fall on.
UCLA also can play the Adidas card. Also doesn’t seem like a bad place to spend six months before moving onto the league.
Overall, this is certainly an interesting recruitment.
UCLA also can play the Adidas card. Also doesn't seem like a bad place to spend six months before moving onto the league.Overall, this is certainly an interesting recruitment.
UCLA still has pull. People can say they didn’t deserve to make the tourney but they’re in the sweet sixteen for the second straight year. They pulled Looney in this year, a good class in 2015 also Bolden could be eligible for 15/16 add in a Jaylen Brown and suddenly Alford has something good going. All it takes is a couple kids.
Sam Webb said that during yesterday’s Recruiting Roundup (link below). He thinks Michigan “without question is a factor” in Brown’s recruitment, though he doesn’t know how much of a factor they are.
Sam added the following on Brown’s recruitment:
*Michigan’s coaches and admin staff did an “outstanding” job selling Michigan to Brown and his family over the weekend. They did everything they could have done.
*Coach Jordan, whom Brown’s coach has raved about, described Michigan’s player development to Brown and Co.
*Brown’s AAU coach pointed out to Brown that Michigan has been sending players to the NBA Lottery who came to school rated much lower than Brown.
*Brown says he doesn’t care about the “rock star life” a player experiences at Kentucky
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/sam-webb-michigan-acquitted-themselves-very-well-jaylen-brown
Sam Webb said that during yesterday's Recruiting Roundup (link below). He thinks Michigan "without question is a factor" in Brown's recruitment, though he doesn't know how much of a factor they are.Sam added the following on Brown’s recruitment:
*Michigan’s coaches and admin staff did an “outstanding” job selling Michigan to Brown and his family over the weekend. They did everything they could have done.
*Coach Jordan, whom Brown’s coach has raved about, described Michigan’s player development to Brown and Co.
*Brown’s AAU coach pointed out to Brown that Michigan has been sending players to the NBA Lottery who came to school rated much lower than Brown.
*Brown says he doesn’t care about the “rock star life” a player experiences at Kentucky
Sam Webb: Michigan "acquitted themselves very well" with Jaylen Brown | mgoblog
I think the development angle for elite players is moot…because those players are going to the NBA regardless of anything JB & co. can do. Honestly, Jaylen Brown could probably make an NBA roster right now based on talent alone. Furthermore, although we send players to the league, said players haven’t really been successful if we’re being honest.
I think the bigger selling point if we’re being honest is this - we will give you the damn ball and let you do whatever you want for one year.
Sam Webb said that during yesterday's Recruiting Roundup (link below). He thinks Michigan "without question is a factor" in Brown's recruitment, though he doesn't know how much of a factor they are.Sam added the following on Brown’s recruitment:
*Michigan’s coaches and admin staff did an “outstanding” job selling Michigan to Brown and his family over the weekend. They did everything they could have done.
*Coach Jordan, whom Brown’s coach has raved about, described Michigan’s player development to Brown and Co.
*Brown’s AAU coach pointed out to Brown that Michigan has been sending players to the NBA Lottery who came to school rated much lower than Brown.
*Brown says he doesn’t care about the “rock star life” a player experiences at Kentucky
Sam Webb: Michigan "acquitted themselves very well" with Jaylen Brown | mgoblog
I think the development angle for elite players is moot…because those players are going to the NBA regardless of anything JB & co. can do. Honestly, Jaylen Brown could probably make an NBA roster right now based on talent alone. Furthermore, although we send players to the league, said players haven’t really been successful if we’re being honest.
I think the bigger selling point if we’re being honest is this - we will give you the damn ball and let you do whatever you want for one year.
So that’s an interesting point. I tend to agree with you, about what some elite players “think” about the development they need. The great ones though, are always working on their game. If you run across one of those guys (and I don’t know if Brown is one), then the development angle is very important. And if he is truly not about the “rock star” life, then it is possible that the development angle would play well with him.
As for the give me the ball and get out of the way crowd, those are the ones that don’t end up at Kentucky or Kansas or Duke. All of those schools actually make you do other things on the court. That said, at UCLA you can have the ball and do whatever you like.
Sam Webb said that during yesterday's Recruiting Roundup (link below). He thinks Michigan "without question is a factor" in Brown's recruitment, though he doesn't know how much of a factor they are.Sam added the following on Brown’s recruitment:
*Michigan’s coaches and admin staff did an “outstanding” job selling Michigan to Brown and his family over the weekend. They did everything they could have done.
*Coach Jordan, whom Brown’s coach has raved about, described Michigan’s player development to Brown and Co.
*Brown’s AAU coach pointed out to Brown that Michigan has been sending players to the NBA Lottery who came to school rated much lower than Brown.
*Brown says he doesn’t care about the “rock star life” a player experiences at Kentucky
Sam Webb: Michigan "acquitted themselves very well" with Jaylen Brown | mgoblog
I think the development angle for elite players is moot…because those players are going to the NBA regardless of anything JB & co. can do. Honestly, Jaylen Brown could probably make an NBA roster right now based on talent alone. Furthermore, although we send players to the league, said players haven’t really been successful if we’re being honest.
I think the bigger selling point if we’re being honest is this - we will give you the damn ball and let you do whatever you want for one year.
So that’s an interesting point. I tend to agree with you, about what some elite players “think” about the development they need. The great ones though, are always working on their game. If you run across one of those guys (and I don’t know if Brown is one), then the development angle is very important. And if he is truly not about the “rock star” life, then it is possible that the development angle would play well with him.
As for the give me the ball and get out of the way crowd, those are the ones that don’t end up at Kentucky or Kansas or Duke. All of those schools actually make you do other things on the court. That said, at UCLA you can have the ball and do whatever you like.
If I were an elite recruit…I would want to know this, what can you do for me that another school cannot? Reiterating the fact that you’ve sent a few guys to the league would be absolutely meaningless to me, because I know that I’m going to be a lottery pick regardless.
I would want to know exactly how I would be used in the offense that would better prepare me for the NBA…and I just don’t think we have a particularly strong argument for that, because our guys haven’t really been successful in the NBA. That said, I think it would all come down to what I referenced before - will he constantly have the ball in his hands in either isolation or PnR sets that would replicate an NBA situation.
The 'Michigan guys haven't done very well in the NBA' is a bit harsh or at least premature.Tim has played far above expectations for a late first round pick I’d say. Trey has had some struggles, but he’s certainly a use-case for how to showcase a player for the NBA. Mitch has been great since he’s been healthy.
Nik has struggled sure, but how many rookies have been great? It’s not like he’s out of the league.
The idea that Michigan would pitch is look how we got these guys to the league and they weren’t even expected to be there. Imagine how much more skilled – Brown needs to shoot it better and improve his left – you can be after working on your game here.
Not saying that is going to win him over, but it’s at least a valid pitch IMO.
I just disagree totally…you got some unheralded guys to the league…so what? What exactly does that do to enhance me when I’m going to the league with or without you? I’m only going to be here 6 months anyway…so I just don’t think that holds any weight.
Harsh…we’re talking about guys in THJ and Trey that can’t even shoot 40% in the league. There are times when Trey doesn’t even look like he belongs in the NBA. Granted, this is only their second year, but have either of them improved? I do agree with Mitch, as rebounding and hustle are 2 things that historically translate to the NBA.
The ‘Michigan guys haven’t done very well in the NBA’ is a bit harsh or at least premature.
Tim has played far above expectations for a late first round pick I’d say. Trey has had some struggles, but he’s certainly a use-case for how to showcase a player for the NBA. Mitch has been great since he’s been healthy.
Nik has struggled sure, but how many rookies have been great? It’s not like he’s out of the league.
The idea that Michigan would pitch is look how we got these guys to the league and they weren’t even expected to be there. Imagine how much more skilled – Brown needs to shoot it better and improve his left – you can be after working on your game here.
Not saying that is going to win him over, but it’s at least a valid pitch IMO.
If I were an elite recruit...............I would want to know this, what can you do for me that another school cannot? Reiterating the fact that you've sent a few guys to the league would be absolutely meaningless to me, because I know that I'm going to be a lottery pick regardless.I would want to know exactly how I would be used in the offense that would better prepare me for the NBA…and I just don’t think we have a particularly strong argument for that, because our guys haven’t really been successful in the NBA. That said, I think it would all come down to what I referenced before - will he constantly have the ball in his hands in either isolation or PnR sets that would replicate an NBA situation.
It’s not reiterating that you’ve sent other guys to the league, it’s pointing to your development of those guys. Focusing on the fundamental things that you worked on that transformed those guys who had a fraction of your talent into NBA players. It’s also not what this school can do for you that another one can’t, it’s what do you want from a school?
If you want to handle the ball all the time, not have to work on other aspects of your game, and generally be the man, there are plenty of places that will let you do that. That is not a differentiator. Kentucky has players condos and all the amenities, that is a difference maker, but he supposedly doesn’t care about that. Another school could probably offer him financial compensation, but then there are many that would do that.
There is no one school that can do something that no other school cannot or won’t.
If I were an elite recruit...............I would want to know this, what can you do for me that another school cannot? Reiterating the fact that you've sent a few guys to the league would be absolutely meaningless to me, because I know that I'm going to be a lottery pick regardless.I would want to know exactly how I would be used in the offense that would better prepare me for the NBA…and I just don’t think we have a particularly strong argument for that, because our guys haven’t really been successful in the NBA. That said, I think it would all come down to what I referenced before - will he constantly have the ball in his hands in either isolation or PnR sets that would replicate an NBA situation.
It’s not reiterating that you’ve sent other guys to the league, it’s pointing to your development of those guys. Focusing on the fundamental things that you worked on that transformed those guys who had a fraction of your talent into NBA players. It’s also not what this school can do for you that another one can’t, it’s what do you want from a school?
If you want to handle the ball all the time, not have to work on other aspects of your game, and generally be the man, there are plenty of places that will let you do that. That is not a differentiator. Kentucky has players condos and all the amenities, that is a difference maker, but he supposedly doesn’t care about that. Another school could probably offer him financial compensation, but then there are many that would do that.
There is no one school that can do something that no other school cannot or won’t.
I disagree…UK, Duke, and the like can offer exposure. You discount it, but the ‘rock star’ element of those schools is certainly something that better prepares you for the NBA from a maturation and cultural standpoint. The NBA is the ‘rock star’ life…and I honestly don’t think we can prepare him for that. That being said, if he doesn’t care about that, then maybe we are are even footing relatively speaking.
His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162
Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach says he’s buying, which is distinct from actually buying it. What AAU coach is going to explicitly say ‘yeah, we’ll take a pass’…exactly.
Just don’t think skill development is something that is enticing to elite, one and done, type players. The number 1 thing that can help them is just giving them the ball and getting the hell out of there way in my opinion.
His AAU coach is certainly buying it. http://michigan.scout.com/story/1530610-no-telling-what-beilein-could-do-with-brown?s=162Obviously Jaylen is going to the league, no one is disputing that. But I think Michigan still has plenty to sell in skill development.
His AAU coach says he’s buying, which is distinct from actually buying it. What AAU coach is going to explicitly say ‘yeah, we’ll take a pass’…exactly.
Just don’t think skill development is something that is enticing to elite, one and done, type players. The number 1 thing that can help them is just giving them the ball and getting the hell out of there way in my opinion.
Doesn’t it still depend on the player? I mean for the little I know about Brown is that he is not the typical high level prospect that just thinks that he already has all the tools, and it’s just about showcasing it for the league. He seems to legitimately want to develop as a player, and he doesn’t care about being treated as a king.
Again, this is my personal feeling towards him, and this might not be true. Only he and his parents know that. If he only cares about exposing his current talent, then I agree, Michigan is not the place for him.
But if he does truly care about getting better, I think we have as much a shot as anyone.