Game 19: Illinois at Michigan Open Thread

Good news: Strong defensive rebounding effort (Illinois usually great on the offensive glass), no turnovers (Illinois doesn’t force any).

Bad news: Can’t make jump shots and can’t contain dribble penetration. U-M’s ball screen defense was very bad w/ backup bigs.

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I may be wrong but my memory is that he played the 5 earlier in the year and it was his struggles there that gave way to Davis taking those minutes.

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I like Franz, but He is 4-22 from 3 in last 2.5 games. High usage. Very very low output.

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Teske has about four nice looks go half down and pop out. Been a tough stretch. When things aren’t going right, they aren’t going right.

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But have to keep feeding him in the post.

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I thought he played decent at the 5 early in the season (at least in Atlantis). He definitely had some rough games too, but he’s been basically exclusively a 4 for the last month or more. You’re gonna look bad when you’re out of position

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True but they can’t.

we’ve reached the point where Ilinois is giving us the 3

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I agree, it’s just like damn man.

Dosunmu and Frazier 9-13 (3-4 from deep) and a combined 24 points.

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For everyone saying that Michigan shouldn’t shoot as many threes (only 35% of attempts FWIW), what do you suggest they do with those looks?

This team’s success is going to depend on guys like Eli, Franz, Isaiah making those shots.

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Michigan’s offense in general would be pretty easy to make adjustments to midstream since it’s comprised mostly of quick-hitting sets. Pretty crazy that we haven’t implemented 2 or 3 quick sets to attack in ways that don’t rely on perfect 4 out spacing after 6 weeks of horrible shooting.

In a vacuum, teams should be spread pick and rolling and trying to generate threes as a priority…But this team just can’t do it. We need to go in a different direction. Can’t afford to have 35% of your shots be threes when you simply can’t make them. This isn’t overreacting to one game.

0 assists in the first half

I think the secret is making them

C’mon Dylan. You know there are ways to play basketball that aren’t 4 out pick and roll. The answer isn’t to throw your hands up and never win a game again.

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I don’t understand what you mean. I’m not talking about running pick and roll or something else, I’m talking about the shots that U-M is taking.

I think Franz rushed one or two, but it isn’t like 35% 3PA/FGA is particularly high (bottom third of D1).

Hoping dejulius can get some run here and get something going. Offensive spark needed.

Considering our rosters, it’s just silly to suggest an offense that generates a lot of catch and shoot threes isn’t playing to our players strength.

The strength of our starting wings is shooting. None of them can create their own offense, and none of them are particularly good at attacking closeouts even.

Simpson is at his best operating out of the pick n roll.

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This is well stated.

But what Im saying is, if the only way you can score is quick hitter that give you open layups, those will eventually get scouted. Now they aren’t open layups anymore and comes down to hitting jump shots. Are you saying jump shots will go in at a higher rate in another offensive system? Cause I don’t buy that. No offense will be successful with the 26% 3pt shooting we’ve been doing unless you have a team of supremely athletic slashers that can generate shots all the time or some dominant offensive rebounding/inside game

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