European Soccer

Yeah, I like that comp a lot more than Yankees idea.

I’m not sure anyone is more like the Yankees than Real Madrid with Bayern a close second.

Who is HNK Rijeka?

The thing is re: City, if you weren’t suffering w them when it happened, differentiating between expected results from 30+ years ago is irrelevant. You’re picking the very top of the heap.

Like, City is prob playing every match with at least the equivalent of home field advantage against any other club in the world. That’s nuts.

Equivalent of a NCAA tourney 12 seed when the UCL draw drops.

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I can rock with that

Yeah, City are the best team in the world right now. And are coming off of one of the best seasons ever in European football.

There are still institutional differences between clubs and the people who root for them that have a fundamental impact on how you follow them though.

The Nuggets are NBA Champs, but they will never be the Lakers.

Also City have the best manager in the world. He’s going to leave in a couple years and they won’t be the same.

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City is UGA football

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I understand what you’re saying, but it’s irrelevant now. Owners of that nature completely change the perception of the club once they show what they’re capable of doing and will do. Newcastle are no longer the big, underachieving club anymore. They are now viewed in the same vein as Chelsea and Man City and they haven’t even won anything yet.

Even the old English fans of other clubs only look at those clubs through the current frame despite knowing the historical standing.

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I don’t think the Nuggets are even close to an apt comparison.

Nuggets were not the important part of the comparison. City never being like the Lakers/Yankees/etc. is the point.

People go to those teams because of what they are. They win because they are the team of the sport in that country.

The way I’d put it is Haaland signed with City because of Pep (even having a tie to City).

He’s going to Madrid when Pep leaves because it’s Madrid.

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Is the point just that they were bad 30 years ago? Or that their institutional advantages in some sense are simply not as strong as United?

Legendary club. I’d love to see them knock off PSG.

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It was more like a Michigan State thing to Michigan in football. I started following heavy in 05/06 and Joey Barton was the best player and City was pretty much garbage and the main hope every year was to not get relegated. That was pretty much unanimous and it had the big bro/lil bro dynamic with United for 30+ years.

Had to buy our way to the big boys table and every team in the top 6 had institutional advantages. It’s why City catches a lot of salt, but the way things were set up was for United/Pool/Arsenal/Chelsea to be top 4 pretty much every year (which they were most years from 2000-2010).

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Yeah totally not discussing historic institutional success. More the “joining up in the midst of a dynasty”

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Luv my farmers league shithousery

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Right but that was more than a decade ago and doesn’t reflect what’s going on now at all. If you want to claim that still matters in some sense…I doubt it! If you think that matters for whom to root for? Yah I dk I also doubt it, but sure. If I had picked City 20 years ago rather than Arsenal I’d prob be a huge soccer fan rather than semi-aware they exist.

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I’m going to be insufferable when Wolves win the treble

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You will barely notice I exist if Arsenal does anything ever

I wipe my behind with all English clubs. They are little schoolboys. They wouldn’t survive ten minutes in the mansome farmers leagues of Europe

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