European Soccer

bully for them but I will never support an English club

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It’s not about transfer fees, it’s about wages etc

Also hundreds of charged violations of financial fair play

the ireland croatia union finally comes to pass :handshake::handshake::handshake: they’ve been keeping us apart because they know we’d be too powerful together

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  1. Manchester United – £222,984,000
  2. Chelsea – £169,720,000
  3. Manchester City – £163,060,000
  4. Liverpool – £141,782,000
  5. Tottenham – £101,344,000
  6. Arsenal – £85,490,000
  7. Leicester City – 78,780,000
  8. Aston Villa – £75,232,000
  9. West Ham – £70,160,000
  10. Newcastle United – £62,610,000
  11. Crystal Palace – £59,180,000
  12. Everton – £43,120,000
  13. Wolves – £38,310,000
  14. Fulham – £37,610,000
  15. Southampton – £35,380,000
  16. Bournemouth – £32,044,000
  17. Nottingham Forest – £28,590,000
  18. Brighton – £28,340,000
  19. Leeds United – £17,300,000
  20. Brentford – £15,240,000

Still only two in the top 10. As far as the charges go, will see when it is actually charged. Not going to get in a huff over payments to Mancini or obstruction of Premier League charges when every other top team has been doing the same thing forever.

I’m just going to bow out on debating that here though. Kind of realized over the past 15 years there is nothing sillier than a bunch of American EPL fans arguing who made the most honorable choice in deciding to who to root for when it likely came from playing FIFA or whose kit colorway worked into their wardrobe.

Now if like a Brentford or Everton supporter wants to talk that stuff, sure. Just don’t want to hear it from Arsenal, Liverpool, United, Chelsea supporter etc

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Choosing City now is like choosing the Celtics in the middle of the Russell run or the Ruth Gehrig Yankees (sorry Dylan)

May as well root for JP Morgan Chase

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Spain still tries to play the same way (they will still rack up 1000 passes in a match) but don’t have the finisher up front to capitalize. Just lots of lateral passing … over and over.

I get what you are trying to say but I’m saying something a bit different.

The entire essence of City is being overlooked and underachieving and somewhat forgotten. It’s nothing like being a Yankees fan (that’s much more Bayern/Madrid evil dominant empire win every year).

I would say a better comp to becoming a City fan now would be becoming a Warriors fan after they added Durant (Haaland).

Except that if the warriors cheated in order to get Durant

Castle and Villa out here with 3 goals and about 8 good chances in 25 minutes.

Ollie Watkins still can’t finish the most basic of crosses.

Now Mings knee mobilized and getting carted off, that’s a huge blow for Villa this year if he is out long term.

I think it’s far more akin to the Red Sox-Yankees. City have plenty of success in their history but also a history of falling short to a rival that has decades upon decades of high level success. Nobody was too unhappy to see City win that first Prem title just to stick it to ManU. Just like how many were happy to see the Sox win the title in 04 to break their long streak and get one over the Yankees.

Now, nobody would shed a tear if a meteor hit Fenway or the Ethiad. There’s nothing likable about their orgs now that the novelty of them beating their rivals has work off.

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Yeah that’s fair. I don’t know much baseball so not sure on different sort of comparisons there.

I think my larger point is that there are a lot of clubs in Europe where winning at the highest level is institutional. Part of the fabric of the club. That’s not City. At all.

It definitely is part of the fabric at this point. Maybe not for long time fans but nobody would associate it with the club at this point.

First half was great aside from the Mings injury.

Ligue 1 started this weekend as well. Saw Reims played. Reminded me that Balogun still doesn’t have a new club yet.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that when Man U wins the prem again it’ll be “back to where they should be.” They are expected to win. They’ve always won. Fans of every generation expect it.

They are the Lakers, Liverpool are the Celtics, etc.

Winning is the story of so many clubs n Europe. Man City’s story, before the last decade, was largely fucking up or almost fucking up.

I get the money thing – and I personally think the sports washing is a much better argument against rooting for them than “cheating” because everyone is trying to cheat FFP and FFP protects the historic clubs – but what City has become basically would have felt impossible to the current generation of adult City fan who grew up rooting for the club.

Not sure if that makes sense, but it is definitely a part of the identity of the club (and not always in a good way).

The warriors comp tracks to me. Or if you started rooting for Duke in the 90s

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I feel like Clemson football is a good comp for City. Nice run in the late 70’s/early 80’s and then a bunch of mediocre nonsense until 2010ish when both seemingly got a huge influx of money and played a little loose with the rules and now are mainstays at the top.

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I was just leaning to Liverpool as the team to study and then I saw this.