Congratulations to Johnny B, he certainly deserved to be in the top ten. He certainly gets more out of his players than any coach in the country. It comes down to culture and fundamentally sound team play.
Congratulations!m
Yeah it seems the list is very inconsistent… Seems they couldn’t make up their minds whether they want it to be a recent list (last few years) or a list based on entire careers… Beilein has flat out been better than Izzo and Ryan over the last few years and Marshall had one great regular season and one great tourney run
So guys like Izzo, Ryan, Coach K, Self are rewarded for history where Boeheim and Roy Williams are not… Just an odd list
10 is Kevin Ollie of UConn
9 is John Beilein of Michigan
8 is Gregg Marshall of WSU
7 is Bo Ryan of Wisconsin
Glad Beilein made the top 10, but the inconsistency of this list continues to permeate through into the top 10. Sad that we will see Tom Izzo ahead of Beilein in this list when 6 out of the last 9 UM-MSU games have gone for Michigan. But to be expected from these types of offseason “lists.”
Bo Ryan and Gregg Marshall, I actually can understand an argument of them being ahead of JB. Izzo not so much.
So this list is definitely a joke. They tout their “forecast” being “more accurate” because they’re crowd-sourcing, essentially. And the supposed charge that the rankings consider the present and NOT career history or legacy is a farce. The articles written about Ryan, Self, et al focus on their legacy and how that justifies their ranking, even if they had a down year. Self’s, for instance, talks about how good he has been over the past decade and how he’ll go down in history as arguably the best KU coach ever. What all this has to do with present day is beyond me. I’m sure we’ll get more of the same about Izzo (top 5 present-day coaching jobs??? must be all the injuries…)
The poll is about who's the best now, so it's possible Beilein will be ahead. But it's ESPN, so I'm assuming the top 4 are Izzo, krzyzewski, Donovan, and calipari, in some order. I think Beilein definitely deserves to be top 5.
I know people don’t really like it when others pat themselves on the back, but I called the top four in ESPN’s view. Somehow they managed to get the four biggest self-promoters in the top four. I wonder who the expert panel was…
So this list is definitely a joke. They tout their "forecast" being "more accurate" because they're crowd-sourcing, essentially. And the supposed charge that the rankings consider the present and NOT career history or legacy is a farce. The articles written about Ryan, Self, et al focus on their legacy and how that justifies their ranking, even if they had a down year. Self's, for instance, talks about how good he has been over the past decade and how he'll go down in history as arguably the best KU coach ever. What all this has to do with present day is beyond me. I'm sure we'll get more of the same about Izzo (top 5 present-day coaching jobs??? must be all the injuries...)
Yes, I agree this list is a complete joke. The whole present day premise however you define it isn’t followed. Let’s say the present day is extended to mean the last 3 years rather than this past year. How does that puts Izzo at #3? He hasn’t even been the best coach in the state of Michigan the last 4 years.
Unsurprisingly, the article written is one excuse (injuries) after another. A big surprise, NOT! It even goes as far as justifying a close loss to UCONN by acting like UNCONN was meant to win the tourney all along.
I needed a good laugh and this gave it to me.
Finishing off the list for completeness in the thread
6 is Bill Self of Kansas
5 is Rick Pitino of Louisville
4 is Coach K of Duke
3 is Tom Izzo of MSU
2 is John Calipari of Kentucky
1 is Billy Donovan of Florida
As I and others have said throughout, the inconsistency inside the list is still noticeable. My final thoughts, I think Donovan is worthy of number 1, despite the hype from the media and ESPN seemingly devoting themselves fully towards “The SEC Network”. I would have put Bill Self and Rick Pitino in the top 5 along with Beilein and Coach K.
Are there any criteria or timeframes under which you can justify Izzo ahead of Pitino? It’s amazing how overvalued Izzo is as a coach, especially in the past 3+ years.
Are there any criteria or timeframes under which you can justify Izzo ahead of Pitino? It's amazing how overvalued Izzo is as a coach, especially in the past 3+ years.
Injuries and “weird guys”.