College Basketball 2023-24 Discussion

Yeah, hard to fall out of the top 75 as a high major team if you are somewhat competent in a good league.

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I was out at recess today watching a mob of middle schoolers playing some hoops on the court; lots of banging and kicking the ball around and shots clanging off the rim. Now I turn on this SJU-North Texas game and…see pretty much the same thing.

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Dingle is just surprisingly incidental to anything they do, which is very surprising to me. Either he’s just not that good, or he/they just have no idea how to involve him

N Texas just very effective at making Jenkins be a one man show

Can’t tell how much is their defense and how much is Jenkins

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He did miss the entire preseason.

It’s not like Pitino’s teams are offensive works of art. And he really breaks guys down to fit into his way of playing and working first.

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Fair enough.

I understand the difficulty of involving Soriano against a no-middle defense at least. (I guess now I need to google how many career 3’s he has)

edit: First 4 years: 0-0 on 3’s. This year: 3-3

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Soriano has basically no offensive game as far as getting him involved, though. You aren’t going to post him. He doesn’t really have moves like that. Best bet is throw it up and hope he gets it off the rim.

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aside from his burgeoning three point shot you mean

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Looks like the Johnnies are going to hold on. Never a doubt!

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St. Johns! Validated. :rofl: (Not really, they seem very mid.)

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Didn’t get to watch most of this but oof it seemed ugly. But hey, UNT is solid and SJU was only favorited by 5 on Torvik. Keeps them in the winners bracket and a chance for a better win tomorrow.

Don’t need or expect SJU to be a top 25 team, but if they can get themselves to solidly top 50 by years end that’s big for Michigans resume

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Oh yeah, the floor for that being a quality win is very high since it was a road game.

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Well, after watching that game of basketball I’m torn as to whether I am elated that Michigan could put up 89 points against the stingy St. John’s defense or concerned that the Red Storm scored over 70 on us, Kenpom time or not.

One game was 64 possessions. One game was 72.

Michigan’s defense was also awesome in the 2H.

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I think Ledlum may not be good

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He looks like a Camp Sanderson Before picture

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Ledlum can play D. But his offense is not good. Which is basically what I expected of him. Didn’t see much offensive game from him besides “strong guy jump higher than Ivy League players”

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slowly coming round on @buckets12 take on the ivies

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There are def guys that end up great and disprove me but there are just so many variables with transfers in general these days like ability to learn a new system, work ethic, personality, shifting roles, etc.

Ivy grad transfers have all of those, plus massive competition level adjustment curves, all while knowing that they aren’t going to the NBA so they’re there for 6 months max before getting a job in Finance or playing in Lithuania.

Just a pass for me. Give me the 5 star recruit from Texas Tech and Alabama that never got a starting role because he was surrounded by great college players.

I don’t really get singling Ivy’s out specifically. Only makes sense if it’s a broad up transfer theory. I mean we literally are 50/50 on Ivy transfers

Definitely agree a lot can go on with uptransfers. But I wouldn’t count Dingle as a failure story yet either.

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Yeah I think you can apply it to all up transfers if you want to. Only using “Ivy” since we were talking Dingle

Only caveat that there are def more guys that up transfer and work out that have actual NBA ceilings and fall into the category that works against me. Markquis Nowell hello.

Nobody with a ceiling like that coming out of the Ivy IMO, and I get that’s a generalization but I think it applies