I wouldn’t think they’d be particularly great next year. They are losing their coach, losing their best players, can’t really see anything better than middle of the league.
USF feels like a much healthier program.
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Yeah, and they no longer will really be able to recruit like a P6 school due to the conference they are in and the status of the school being in limbo. With that being the case, I’d think most kids with a Wazzu and a Mountain West offer would pick the Mountain West school in a better league. Poor Wazzu fans, students and alums. You’re now a mid major.
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BYU has a unique resource and talent pool
WSU is a relatively small public school in extreme geographic isolation
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I can confirm it. As I said in the past, I nearly took the job at Wazzu where I would’ve been working closely with Mike Leach (RIP).
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I think the average person hears “Washington State” and assumes Seattle or Tacoma or Spokane. Pullman is 30,000 people surrounded by total Palouse wilderness for hundreds of miles in every direction
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From that Norlander article:
Out: Juwan Howard In : Dusty May
Howard would have been able to hold on to the job if Michigan had been 13-19 instead of 8-24; if it was 7-13 in the Big Ten instead of 3-17.
This just seems like total speculation (or is it?), but in that particular scenario, I would be suuuper depressed about next year. Like barely even log on all season depressed.
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Yeah since they’re losing their coach and probably all the players, and add in that they already were an awful P5 job with next to no history… they are essentially no different then any other MM job out there. They’re at square one. It’s possible they may not have a KP top 100 team again for a long time.
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It’s pretty fascinating that a major university in a fairly populous state is literally in the middle of nowhere.
Why is there no narration in this video? I am devastated.
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Meanwhile, Oregon State is just like, “Yeah, whatever, man. I guess we’ll let Wayne Tinkle cook for another couple years.”
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Fairly common feature of Land Grant schools! State College is similarly middle of nowhere PA. Plenty of other examples.
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Yup, Washington is the flagship school and their campus is pretty. I loved their football stadium location which is right by the lake.
Washington State is considered to be the toughest P5 job in the country for a good reason. Now that they’re not a P5 school, they’re screwed.
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they are virtually guaranteed to lose during any future rounds of expansion as well. it’s not a growing region, there’s no media market. is the Big 12 going to say “we need to recruit Calgary” ten years down the road? no
I think if you polled the board the day before Juwan was fired you wouldn’t have gotten better than 50/50 he was gone. The poll we actually did in…Feb? was like 80/20 he was back. The vibes were not great and were a reflection of the scuttlebutt from inside the AD. As Sam Webb tells it, had Juwan done better in his year end post mortem review w Warde, he would’ve been retained.
A good friend of mine is from Pullman, WA.
Can you get an auto-bid as an affiliate member?
There’s middle of nowhere as in takes few hours to get there from any major center, and then there’s middle of nowhere as in what an extremely pleasant drive through a backcountry with tons of things to do in it. We passed through a few times a year going from the DMV to Ontario. I’m personally a big fan of State College PA.
80/20 he’d be back in February?!?!?
I think there pretty clearly was other stuff at play in the end beyond the record that played into things at the end of the road. But very clearly the whole operation was a dead man walking once the Dug thing happened.
It’s not like the team was close to 5 Big Ten wins, let alone 7 
And everyone seemed resigned to how the year was going to go by mid-January.
Why wouldn’t you be able to?