Sure, but getting drafted in the 2nd round != automatic guaranteed contract like a first round pick does.
That wasnât an advocation for Charles to take a swing at it. Just offering a correction to the information.
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This seems like a pretty distorted way to present this. You make it sound like there has ever been anyone who preferred to be drafted in the 2nd round to the 1st.
Who has ever wanted to avail themselves of this boon you have just created out of whole cloth?
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The question is for how many years. A team knowing theyâre tied to you for a full 3 years is huge in terms of where you sit on their priority list, how much rope you have, whether they view you as interchangeable or an investment.
There are cases where early second rounders have negotiated âbetterâ contracts than last first rounders
There is no way in hell that heâs an early round 2 prospect if he didnât even get invited to the combine. best case scenario he is 59th out of 60. After dropping 18 ppg next year he can easily be a first rounder and make it worthwhile next year
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Didnât mean to leave out the bit about not being guaranteed, though itâs not uncommon to get a guaranteed deal in the 2nd.
Iâm also not saying someone would necessarily want to be 2nd rounder over a late 1st rounder. However, there are alot of examples of guys who got paid sooner because they went in the second round. Khris Middleton comes to mind as a good example.
Plus, athletes at this level and this good are going to be confident or theyâre not going to make it anyway. It is certainly possible that someone would take that into consideration when trying to determine whether or not theyâll come back for another year of college. Doesnât mean itâs the right, or smart decision but if you think you have the game it could help soften the blow of not being a 1st rounder.
Everytime I see a new post on this thread, Iâm terrified the post is gonna contain a good bye tweet from Charles.
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This does not mean that any non-Euro has ever expressed a preference for not being in the 1st round.
Also Charles isnât getting anywhere near the start of the 2nd round, so thatâs pretty irrelevant to this thread.
Heâs not in a spot to get one of those guarantees in all likelihood, though.
Sure, there are guys who ended up lucking out by being second rounders. Iâm pretty sure theyâre the exception, not the rule, though.
That is also some kind of attempt to thread the needle to convince yourself itâs good to be a non-guaranteed 2nd rounder. Or even a 2nd rounder who doesnât have 3 full years guaranteed. Itâs insanely risky. Charles simply does not have an NBA ready game right now. Coming into the NBA non-guaranteed with a non-NBA ready game is just stupid. Itâs a ticket to all sorts of bad outcomes.
Anyway, I hope and think that the bet heâs going to make on himself is that heâs going to come back and put himself in the situation he wants to be in next year.
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Charles is on Instagram Live right now and people are obviously commenting stay another yearâŚhereâs what Charles just said:
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âStay another yearâŚman some of yâall fans be acting so selfish manâŚthatâs what I think, everybody be in my DMs talking bout stay another year just cuz I might wanna go to the NBA this yearâŚespecially after I laid it all out there for yâall this year. I guess sometimes you canât get what you wantâ
Sometimes we need to sit back and remember these are still kids weâre talking about.
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Selfish? Youâre foolish if you enter the draft when you wonât even be drafted⌠itâs one thing if you donât care if your ever make it to the league but if thatâs your goal, then this is not the time and place for that⌠you wonât be picked and then youâll have a choice of G League or europe and unless you dominate that league, you ainât ever making it to the to the NBA
Whatever bro: enjoy your time making $20k and never making it to the NBA. Iâm fine if next year is a little worse off but Iggy and Johns get more experience, but I just think itâs so ill informed if he goes without a draft guarantee. If you donât even get an invite to the combine, you arenât gonna be drafted
Yeah I really donât want any of this to come across as anti-Charles cuz I love the kidâs game/swagger and really hope it works out for him. But I also donât really remember a player who was entirely off draft boards openly antagonizing his teamâs fan base like Charles seems to be doing. Weird situation. Feel like the best case scenario at this point is he kills a workout and sneaks into the second round, I guess thatâs what Iâm rooting for now
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Kids who intially go to Kentucky thinking it will be a 1 year pit stop until they get to the league probably arenât amused heading into their 4th year still not in the league.
He may just not have any interest of playing in college anymore, and any amount logic or rational thought doesnât matter.
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Recent history says UMâs Matthews faces long NBA Draft odds
Letâs not read anything into a Q&A session online. This young man has every single person who matters telling him what would happen if he were to declare early. Every single option is getting dissected. As far as we know heâs just messing with his instagram followers who are telling him what he canât do.
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Why do you care? And I disagree with @CoryR. He is an adult making an adult decision. I would say that most people messaging him publicly that donât know him are selfish and probably a little childish. There might be some who genuinely care about Matthewsâs best interests, but most are probably selfish âfansâ. Maybe before posting on this topic, and especially responding directly to Charles, people should ask themselves âwhat would Beilein do?â
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Ask yourself what would you do if you came from CMâs neighbor in Chicago. A few weeks ago over 70 people where shot in Chicago. The NCAA wonât let the players earn money.
Maybe the a shoe company or agent is sponsoring CM even if he doesnât get drafted.