My only quibble would be KBD had one great year of college, but was pretty mediocre the rest of the time. If some of these other guys played four years, they might be way ahead of KBD.
Well he had a standard freshman year, then a good sophomore year, then he got injured, then he had a fantastic senior year. If his senior year becomes his junior year, then he leaves, is his career thought of differently?
For the record, I donât think he should be first team, but he should definitely be on here somewhere.
If you donât count his senior year, Iâd argue his numbers from his first three years were way worse than Glenn Robinson or Tim Hardawayâs. As it stands, after averaging 19.8 a game as a senior, that only raised his career average to 11.7 a game.
To me, heâs a guy who was just a guy for three years and then had a nice senior year. Not trying to be harsh but I would not put him on any of these lists. In fact, for the Buckeyes, Iâd say DeShaun Thomas had a far better career:
Youâre ignoring his injury. His 3rd year basically wasnât a year. He played 3 seasons.
Deshaun Thomas is very similar though as far as career offensive comparisons go. He didnât get the individual awards KBD got though as KBDâs season was just a bit more efficient overall, and he was known as the key defender on that team whereas Craft was viewed that way for 2013 OSU. Because of that I would for sure put KBD above Deshaun Thomas. Deshaun Thomas should be in Honorable Mention for sure though.
DeShaun Thomas was definitely a nice player. I agree the guys that only did it for one year at that elite level should be discounted.
He averaged 14.4 a game and I believe KBD averaged 11.7, and Thomas made a Final Four in 2012 and an Elite Eight in 2013. Iâd have him a little higher than KBD, and both behind Stauskas.
I personally value peak over longevity (to an extent of course), but it is definitely a preference as opposed to an objective rule
Also just realized Jordan Taylor was left off⌠in favor of Yogi Ferrel and Aaron Craft
Yogi was deserving IMO. Not Craft. Pretty sure the first team is going to be Burke, Valentine, Turner, Green, Kaminsky. Hard to argue with any of the choices although including Turner when he barely played this decade is a bit odd. I would have Winston ahead of Draymond too, I think thereâs some revisionist history to include Draymondâs pro accomplishments at play there.
IMO the biggest stretches are Murphy and Russell, but the latter is based on my own feeling that one impactful year isnât enough. The conference has had plenty of guys that were around for two or more and really made them count.
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Among head scratchers already mentioned, I wouldnât have Ethan Happ on the list. Stat stuffer yes, but I donât think he was good on D, and his offense had major flaws: horrible free throw shooter, and no range outside 5 feet. Team was supposed to be turrible when he left⌠they win the BIG title.
Itâs just objectively absurd that Nik Stauskas may have missed on 75% of the ballots. His sophomore year was an absolute inferno from start to finish.
Reading the tweets, it seems like everyone voted for top 10 lists not top 15 though. So that may skew some of the people who are on the third team as particularly high variance picks.
So who the f*** voted Jordan Murphy a top 10 player this decade? That makes both his and Crafts inclusion even worse.
He was always a BTN favorite
I had the same thought. Definitely creates variance like Dylan said. But I literally can not fathom that Jordan Murphy or Aaron Craft got not only a single vote, but more than one!!
Whoever did that should lose their credentials and be subjected to working in the mail room at BTN, never to be solicited for their opinion ever again.
Hopefully it wasnât Beilein
Stephen Bardo was definitely one of them
Are we to infer then that Aaron Craft received at least 5 votes as one of the Top Ten players in the B1G from 2010-2019?