Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/basketball/enoch-boakye-decommits-from-michigan-state

“Just doing a lot of research with my people and watching a lot of games, it looks like they will have a lot of guys staying,” Boakye said. “I want to go to a place where I have the opportunity to make an impact right away. That’s the No. 1 goal of mine.”

:man_shrugging:

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This is too funny. Izzo desperately needs some guys to transfer and they just refuse too. “Aww Coach Izzo I love when you yell at me”

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So… MSU next year:

PG - Loyer - Akins - Hoggard
SG - Christie
SF - Henry (?) - Brown - Brooks
PF - Hauser - Hall
C - Kithier - Sissoko - Bingham or Marble (?)

Graduate:
Langford

Transfer Out:
Rocket
Bingham or Marble

NBA:
Henry(?)

So they have 1 or 2 spots for a transfer in depending on what Henry does. The biggest problem with their roster is that their worst positions (PG and C) are the positions with the biggest logjams. I’d probably just go after filling those spots with transfers anyway, but you could have issues if you do that.

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Yeah, MSU is not gonna be great next year either. Probably not miss the tournament bad… But… Not good

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Could even be more transfers out IMO.

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Yeah, I guess both Bingham/Marble could transfer and also maybe Brown. But I don’t see any of those guards transferring atleast.

Really, they NEED Loyer/Kithier to transfer… But I don’t think that’s happening.

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Don’t worry, Emoni will come to save them :rofl:

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If Max Christie is immediately really really good they might be a bubble team next year

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They don’t need Loyer or Kithier to leave. They do need a center to step up and be the clear 25 mpg choice and it’s plausible for Cissoko or one of the others to do that. They need Akins to be worth starting over Loyer, in a Derrick Walton as a freshman role, and then Christie has to be worth his rating. That puts them top half of the big ten at least.

That’s far from a lock but it’s not crazy.

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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

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So, who wants to slide over to the RCMB and report back on the natives? :rofl:

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I’m talking from an optimal roster building perspective. Basically, you want your low-upside low-impact upper-classmen to transfer so you can bring in new transfers as safety-blankets for your high upside young guys (Akins/Sissoko). Not impossible to be good, but no one is gonna feel safe with the roster going into next year.

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I hadn’t even gotten to peruse their Michigan game thread yet, ugh

In other words, they need Tom Izzo to rely on some talented freshmen/underclassmen over less talented four-year players that have been playing starter-level or major rotational roles for a full year now. I wish them luck with that.

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I don’t take too much joy out of it… Crap who’s kidding who the underlying racial tones when talking about Howard, how MSU was going to have a better class once Enoch and Emoni reclassified etc… Yes I will enjoy the carnage. There is nothing better than fans of the same school beating up on eachother.

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Let’s take up a collection and pay that person a respectable hourly wage. Send them some soap and shampoo too. They’re gonna want that later.

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Not to break up the MSU LOL-fest, but the new AP Poll is out.

  • #3 Michigan (same)
  • #4 Ohio State (same)
  • #5 Illinois (↑ 1)
  • #11 Iowa (↑ 4)
  • #21 Wisconsin (same)

Honorable mention: Rutgers (#27), Purdue (#33), Toledo (#41)

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Can be easily restored with an emergency pod on MSU roster construction. I love the idea of them losing Watts. Izzo needs guys like that to come in and struggle for a year or two, and then they become fantastic upperclassmen. I feel like losing a guy like that is a bigger setback than it would be for many programs.

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Wow that is a powerfully built kid. Look at that base. It would be real shame to be Tom Izzo right now, gazing at a picture of what he looks like now and imaging what he’ll look like in a year or two.

Maybe we could all go in on a what-could-have-been photo album we could mail to his office. "Uncommitted’’ would be a good title and doable with just a slight edit.

This is very relevant for me as I was in the midst of listening to the MSU portion of this morning’s podcast and almost spit my water out when I click on this thread and saw the Boakye decommitment post.