Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

Aaaaaand that Maryland three will probably do it.

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Wow, Wiggins with a ā€œno no no YESā€ three on a totally broken possession.

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Morsell with a fantastic reverse layup to probably seal it.

Weiskamp and Trevion Williams belong ahead of several guys on that listā€”Trice and Harper for sure, and based on play instead of rep, Carr as well.

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Oh gotcha. Yeah Williams could be as high as second team. Wire Kano is another that should be considered.

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Carr is carrying a big load this year with >28% usage while still having 111 O rating and 35% assist rate vs 13% TO rate. Those are impressive numbers for anybody. It is the 13th highest O rating in the country for anybody with that usage rate. Garza, Dosunmu, and Cam Thomas from LSU are the only major conference players ahead of him.

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Feel like if I were picking 5 with no regards to trying to make an actual team work, itā€™d be Ayo, Garza, TJD, Livers, and Cockburn on the first team, and then Wagner, Liddell, Carr, Wieskamp, and Trevion on the second team.

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Carrā€™s BT only efficiency rating after tonight is going to be not much better than 100 or dead average. I realize that heā€™s a very high usage guy, and that matters, but heā€™s usually an indifferent defender, and to me, an all-league player should do more than just be very high usage at a not very efficient pace.

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Is Wire Kano the new Sauce Castillo? :wink: :joy:

(I assume you were trying to type Wieskamp and autocorrect did ya dirty.)

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My phone hates my fat fingers šŸ¤¦šŸ¼

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The same number of people have now called him that as have called him ā€œWeezy.ā€

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His conference only O rating after tonight is down to 104. But if you want to knock players for defense, seems a bit odd to want to see someone like Wieskamp up there. Iowa is still a raging dumpster fire on that end of the court.

I donā€™t think highly of Minnesota but Carr ably carries a massive load despite being the primary focus of every opponent.

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Do you have an iPhone? Iā€™m unironically convinced that the software updates are programmed to make typing worse to get people to buy the newer, bigger phones.

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An underrated tale in this is how incredibly bad Minnesotaā€™s other guards are at creating shots. Complete and total incompetence in that area from practically all of them. Theyā€™re going to be a disaster without Carr.

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Fun fact, Carr is the only 1, 2, or 3 on their roster to have an ORtg above 100.

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I agree that Weiskamp sucks as a defender on a team which sucks on defense. Heā€™s also a secondary usage guy, nota primary one like Carr. That said, heā€™s over 120 on offensive efficiency rating, and is pretty elite on that end. Reasonable minds can disagree of course, but if I had to pick one of the two to start a team, I would choose Weiskampā€”Carr can win you games, but he can shoot you out too. JMO.

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Would we have two on the all defensive first team? Franz and Eli? And Iā€™d put Dickinson on second team.

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Itā€™s a classic floor raiser vs. ceiling raiser question. Carr can raise your floor. Heā€™s solid in high usage. You can depend on him to lift a bad team up. Wieskamp could never do what he does. But Wieskamp is great as a second banana, and can raise the ceiling of a good team.

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Carr has so many counting stats and headlines that he gets in over a second fiddle like Weiskamp. And your comment is exactly right. Likewise, Carr wouldnā€™t fit well on some teams that want him to have lower usage.

If you had to build an actual team with all five positions, I like the Michigan forwards with Carr, Ayo, and Garza. But the other bigs will steal at least one spot.

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Nice work! I spent the better part of a minute trying to figure out who was meant there and didnā€™t come up with any ideas.

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