Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

Is this your way of resuscitating him?

You can’t resuscitate a pile of dust

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Real barnburner here at Welsh-Ryan Arena.

Dang, dude! You big mad!

Well for starters, to achieve any goals - winning the conference and/or making a run in the tournament you need to beat good teams. Also, if you’re Iowa and just generally want to be taken seriously as a legitimate contenders, you should win some games too. Weird position to take to say you don’t need to actually win games.

And with regard to your efficiency numbers magically making you win games in the tournament argument, I believe Dylan posted a chart of teams that had similar statistical profiles to Iowa and most of them had early tournament exits. Are there some teams that you are thinking of that lost a bunch of games toward the end of the season, didn’t beat many really good teams, but had a nice computer profile and made a deep run in the tourney?

Announcer says that Northwestern having 5 players with 6 points means everyone is a threat to score. I would say that means no one is a threat to score when the highest individual scorer has 9 points in 32 minutes.

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I’m honestly not sure if you’re serious or going for hyperbole. I don’t want to come across as defending Fran because I think he is a mediocre coach at best. But to call him worse than Chris frickin’ Collins? Ed Cooley? Ellerbe? Come on man…

Given the resources he’s working with, Fran is a replacement level coach in my opinion. Recruits okay…not great. Has shown the ability to develop good-to-elite offenses. Has a total blind spot to defense. Will likely never hang a meaningful banner but will win more games than he loses.

Iowa is a good team…they aren’t and likely never will be a great team. Agree with Dylan.

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Of course if you want to win the conference you have to win the games. That’s implied, no?

But as for NCAA tournament success, there is no predictive ability (or minimal at best) between quality wins in the regular season and advancing deep in the NCAA tournament. The actual adjusted efficiency margins are about the best predictor you will find.

The similar profiles to Iowa that Dylan referenced from T-rank are teams that were dominant on offense with terrible defense, not teams that had a pretty efficiency metric but lacked marquee wins.

LOL, worse than Ellerbe? Ellerbe was so bad that 20 years after being fired from Michigan he still hasn’t gotten a head coaching job. Fran would slink back to a mid major job relatively quickly.

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Okay, was not sure if serious until the “worse than Ellerbe” bit. I’m not sure that is literally possible.

Fran isn’t the worst, but his program seems to be forever spinning its wheels. When you’re on year 11 and your career highlight is … a couple of round of 32s? Meh.

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Fran is literally worse than Steven Izzo.

That may have been a clean block by TJD.

Ten times worse than Ellerbe. You can’t even fathom Fran’s badness. I understand, it’s a complex situation.

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At Indiana, Archie Miller is 2-9 in the game following a win over a top 25 team. Brutal.

it hurts to say it but Archie gives me major Jim Harbaugh vibes

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I guess the positive side of it is that he’s won 12 games against ranked opponents in four years, which is pretty good. But man, talk about not handling prosperity.

He plays to the level of his opponent.

As a big-time Michigan fan needing some Hoops in my life during the unnecessary lockdown, I’ve taken to watching other games in the conference - such as this Indiana-Northwestern slugfest, last night’s Penn State-Michigan State slugfest, and even Maryland forgetting to defend the three against OSU - which I normally wouldn’t do. I have two questions: 1. How is the B1G the best conference in college basketball? 2. How does Michigan play so pretty when everybody else just plays gross games?

In all honesty, I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity for a good Iowa troll. I am as surprised as everyone to see that Fran isnt lifetime 10-100 in Franbruary. He stinks, but I still think this team doesn’t.

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