2022 NBA Draft Discussion

Caleb at 38. Mathurin to the Pistons.

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It’s a weird, weird board. I think I’ve said before that I think models seem to me to be a lot more useful after the lottery than before and to help think about who within the lottery to prefer and why?

The Lofton one, I’d guess it’s his AST% in particular that’s popping? It’s also really good raw production for a freshman age kid. But, uh, yeah. Would be a heck of a bet to make taking him in the lottery.

Yeah, that’s probably true. I think there is a good player in there probably, but (and this is something no context-free model will see) I don’t think you could have any expectation of him being physically able to play 20 mins of NBA basketball.

Ivey to Pistons, Houstan #32

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Sam’s final big board w annual massive text dump. Caleb 46th, Moussa 60th.

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He had Houstan going #34 to OKC for those wondering about his mock

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Houstan 32, Diabate 58

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So Nate Duncan’s pod did Dyson Daniels (in essence: not buying it, the worst prospect they’ve seen of the top group) and Shaedon Sharpe who, while acknowledging that he knows nothing about interviews (but noting that reporting is often BS) and also that there is no recent film…felt Sharpe was a top 3 pick. He felt Sharpe was the best shooter off the dribble of the lottery projected picks, an elite finisher (better than Ivey), a solid passer, and a competitive defender.

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It seems like the draft starts at 4 (please Kings become the Kangz). The top 3 are almost set in stone with JSJ, Chet and Paolo in that order. I want Ivey the worst way for the Pistons.

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That’s what they say. There are reports that the Kings see Ivey as a poor fit with Fox and Mitchell in place (which is very KANGZ-y), and will either try to trade it or may take Murray instead.

I stand by my ā€œIvey or Sharpe for the Pistonsā€ take.

It definitely sounds like it’s Mathurin though.

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As a Pacers fan, I want Sharpe at 6. Swing for the fences and hope he blows up! (and then he’ll leave after his rookie contract for Miami or LA).

He’s who Id take. I think ā€œinterviews wellā€ is nonsense and people like Givony have pushed back against the ā€œbad workoutsā€ narrative.

I think his challenge is that most NBA GMs don’t watch EYBL, so he’s something of a black box. I also don’t blame him for not playing this year after enrolling in November, with no off-season.

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Giovany insinuated that Mathurin is the pick if Ivey is gone by 5 so I’m inclined to think it’s Ivey, Mathurin and Murray in that order for the Pistons after the big 3.

I guess - I tend to think Ivey is going at four, the bigger question is who is taking him.

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I would say that this is absolutely false.

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Ok, I’m regurgitating what Givony said on Zach Lowes pod there. May have been specific to ā€œdepth of COVID EYBLā€, but he definitely said it was mostly scouts.

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Givony said NBA GMs don’t watch EYBL?

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He said they don’t attend.

Specifically, the year Sharpe played, his games intersected with the draft on the calendar.

That makes sense. That’s different than not watching, in my mind. Scouts are typically the on the ground people until the end

The mystery of Sharpe is added in that he only just blew up last year. So he has junior year prep and then the following summer, and that’s it.