Cain has 0 assists and 8 turnovers and the game isn’t over
Of course, he lives a mile from MSU campus. Someone who should know told me that he really likes Michigan. Doesn’t mean we get him, but we’ll be in it. Saw him play once. For a soph, he looked damn good to me.
You may not agree with it, but I think it will happen. And I’d say Spike was a pretty big part of our success in 2013 and 2014, so having a quality backup point guard has been important for us. Heck, look at this year - playing Dakich was a killer for us.
I think we’ll want to have a backup point guard, and an injury to any of MAAR, Poole or Simpson in 2017 would leave us really thin.
So, do we take West over Cain/Young? That is the net result. Seems foolish to me
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That’s not the net result. We’ll have room for four. But no, I agree, the PG has to be last priority unless we’re talking Thornton for some reason, but I haven’t heard anything like that.
If we have room, I agree with you, it’s ideal to have a designated backup PG. If limited to 3 spots, backup PG has to be addressed in 18
Fully agree. I think a class of Poole, Cain and Young would be the type of guys who have the talent to make deep tourney runs at some point in their careers.
You are literally the only person on the board who doesn’t like Cain and your sole arguement is rankings before the AAU run of their Junior year.
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I posted a stat that happened hours ago.
Did I ever say I didn’t like Cain?
Here’s the thing, you cite the 8 TOs, but fail to mention the fact that Cain averaging 14.7 ppg, 6.7 Rebs pg, 1 steal pg, and 1.3 blocks on 44% shooting. Those are prototype numbers for a SF. With my highlights I said Cain’s biggest strength is versatility as a 2 way player - and that appears to be true so far, although the sample size is admittedly small.
Are we to say that Young is inadequate as a rebounder because he’s aversging less than 5rebs per game while being a legit 6’8 and 220 while Cain exceeds that at 2 inches shorter and 40lbs lighter. Of course not, I think what we’ve seen previously demonstrates Kyle is a good rebounder.
Just food for thought before you are quick to point out negative things
Jeeze. You two Matts twins or something? The point was that if we are recruiting him to play the 3 then his play making has a long ways to go. I don’t know why he had so many turnovers but my guess would be his handle isn’t that great. He’s got time but for him to be top 100 right now seems to be a stretch. Having a 3 man who doesn’t get assists isn’t what beilein wants. If they’re recruiting him to be the 4, then I’d prefer young over Cain to play the 4. Obviously prefer Cain to play the 3 but I’m guessing beilein is wanting him to play the 4.
Pretty sure you guys are all off by one in the scholarship department unless I’m missing something here: Why would Michigan have to oversign to take Cain, Young and West?
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Problem is that you limit playmaking to creating for others/passing. I prefer someone that can get a bucket individually as opposed to someone that cannot create for themselves but may be able to generate for others. In other words, I’ll take a MAAR type over a Zak Irvin type 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.
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That’s where we disagree big time. No way ever would I want MAAR running my team over a healthy Irvin. Irvin outplayed him all year and wasn’t healthy. I can’t even debate this. It’s seems so obvious to me(and statistically) that Irvin is better, that I can’t see it the other way. We can disagree, it’s not the end of the world.
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No doubt, reasonable minds can beg to differ.
I’m with miller here. I love MAAR, but I think people have undersold a healthy Irvin big-time. May they both prosper next year, and the arguments rage on.
My point wasn’t really that MAAR > Irvin, but moreso that creating is not limited to passing. Cain is fine at creating, creating for himself that is. Zak can create off PnR for others but not for himself because of athletic limitations. I prefer the former, but obviously a subjective thing rather than a defined right/wrong.
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I’ll take both ala Burke, Stauskas, and Caris 
I think they’re speculating that Donnal could reclassify again.