I’ll be livid if we are anything less than a 4
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It’s insane that this team is in play for the same seed that Burke, Hardaway, Stauskas, GRIII, McGary, Levert got.
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Wagner is probably the only player on this team who is as good as their 2013 counterpart, and yet here we are. What a coaching job by Beilein.
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Well, the Big Ten was loaded that year. Indiana had Zeller, Oladipo, Watford and Farrell, MSU had Appling, Payne, Dawson, Nix, and Gary Harris, OSU had a really good team (made EE and should have beaten Wichita), and Wisconsin was tough too (knocked us out of the BTT).
And this team plays MUCH better defense than our 2013 team. Not even close.
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They’re 29-4, we’re 27-7. Don’t see us jumping them but I do think we could grab a #3 (meaning we’re a top 12 team) if we win tomorrow. Why not? We were ranked 15 coming into the week and will add four straight wins including wins over MSU and Purdue. Meanwhile some of the teams ahead of us will have to play each other in conference tourneys.
If we win tomorrow, I’ll bet we do get a 3. And MSU I think will still grab a 2.
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I’d say Teske is pretty solid backup 5. Gives JMo a run.
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Although, keep in mind that we were about 2 seed lines lower than what we expected last year.
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But last year we also played the BTT final on Selection Sunday. This time the committee can pay full attention to us.
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Yeah I hear you, but not all records are created equal.
After today, Michigan is practically right there with them on RPI and Kenpom now. Michigan has more quality wins, more quality road wins and most importantly is 2-0 against them road/neutral. In my opinion, that overtakes the additional losses.
MSU had 6 quality games this year and won two of them. I don’t think they finish 29-4 with Michigan’s schedule, or a tougher schedule in general.
Quite honestly, I have zero idea how they’re even in the 2 seed conversation.
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Agree big John is playing quality minutes…really glad he’s challenging defensively! Another year with Sanderson…look out!
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That may all be true, and I don’t disagree, but they’ll be a 2 seed and we’ll be fighting for a 3 with a win tomorrow, that’s my prediction.
Agreed. I’d put this years MSU and Purdue teams up with those teams though. Mostly just impressed with JB
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UCLA snuck up to 38 in the RPI with their win last night. Hopefully they can make a run in the PAC 12 tourney, would be huge if they could crack the top 30 and give us another quad 1 win.
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Texas And UCLA had big wins.
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I love the optimism y’all. Would love a 3 seed and as with last year we seem to be playing exceptionally well–some of the best ball in the country… but the committee has demonstrated a stubborn adherence to the RPI, “body of work,” SOS, quality wins, etc. Now, it appears they’re into this whole quadrant thing. Consider that to earn a 3 seed, we would have to replace one of the following teams (and they all have resume`s that are arguably better than ours with many stronger schedules):
UVA/Nova/Xavier/Duke
Kansas/UNC/Auburn/Purdue
Cincy/Tenn/Arizona/Clemson or MSU
Then there’s teams like Texas Tech, Wichita St. still in the hunt with games to play.
I just don’t see a reasonable path to a 3 seed.
I think we weight the 2-0 more than committee. Other than Michigan they’ve been almost unbeatable.
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As far as this goes, keep in mind that only 7 teams in the country have more Q1 wins than Michigan (and one of those is Florida who isn’t in discussion of being a high seed).
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I very much agree IF the teams are farther apart. Since they’re almost identical now, I think the head to head will (should) be considered.
Michigan is only two behind in RPI and only three behind in Kenpom. I know there’s other metrics considered but those are two bigger ones.
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