2017-18 Bracketology

I mean you said that before Sly mentioned anything about a 1 or 2 seed, but ya know, facts hurt agendas.

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So we just have to get to a point where we hop MSU right? Not Purdue? Did you mean OSU instead of Purdue?

Osu could go to Pittsburgh. Xavier and cincy are about equal distance to Detroit, Nashville and Pittsburgh so they could go just about anywhere. So I would think we need to be top two among MSU and Purdue unless I’m missing something.

It would be nice for Texas to make the tourney. It’s not one of the formal measures but it seems like every year you hear the committee say something about wins against teams in the field. Although we have some very good wins, OSU and MSU are the only two teams currently in. If Texas could make it or UCLA (or both), that might be a small thing that helps us all other things being relatively equal.

Yeah I guess at this point I’m just down on OSU a bit. But yes they would be in the mix.

This is a useful site for scenarios in your head. https://crashingthedance.com/distance

Seems like Michigan ends up in one of those 4/5 pods in Boise unfortunately.

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When you see it that way you realize how not ideal Boise is as a host site.

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Columbus is closer to Pittsburgh than Detroit so I’m guessing it won’t be a huge issue if they’re above of on the S-line.

But there’s other teams above them close to Pittsburgh which would bump them. Both Virginia and Villanova would likely end up there first.

But more than the top seed gets home court, so I’m not sure how Virginia or Nova being there affects anything with OSU.

Only two teams can essentially get a site because those two teams determine the other six teams who will play there.

Ex. Take Virginia and Villanova and let’s say they’re both 1 seeds.

So you would have Virginia v 16 seed and the 8/9 matchup. Same then for Villanova.

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edit: I gotcha, I thought there were more than 4 games in each location. This answers everything.

Top 4 seeds are protected from being at a home court disadvantage in the first round.

Each host city has two “pods” or or two game pairs in the bracket.

They start at the top of the S-curve and give the top teams the closest locations.

Because of this system, there are usually some 4/5 seed pods that are shipped to somewhere like Bose where there are no natural home teams with a higher seed.

I think I’ve been updated to the nuances.

Sorry if it has already been addressed but I am wondering what people think our highest possible seed might be. If the best case scenario happens and 1) we win the Big Ten tournament decisively (against MSU and Purdue); and 2) teams immediately ahead of us in seed ranking do poorly in their tournaments; and 3) teams we either beat or lost to stay in favorable quadrants; then are we talking a 3 seed max?

Seriously? All you have to do is read this very thread.

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My sense is that people think sly was being too optimistic. Umhoops gave “hopping past MSU” as a sort vague and unlikely possibility (I interpreted that as Dylan saying 4 seed is the highest possible in his opinion) and Inmycourt has expressed a vague opinion that he thinks people are being too optimistic about best case scenarios. Just wondering what the vast majority of posters think is the best case scenario if key things fall our way. What do you think? I am throwing 3 seed out as a best possible seed. Is that crazy? I admittedly have not spent much time analyzing other teams resumes against our own.

How exactly am I “shooting everyone down”? They’re playing their best basketball of the year, which is great. But what do you look to to make you happy…how the team is playing on the court, or what anonymous people are posting about it on the internet?

Let’s put it this way…we might look like we deserve a 3 seed when everything is done, but based on past history, do you think it’s more likely that we’ll get the seed we think we deserve or that we’ll end up a notch below that when the actual bracket comes out?

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In the past it seems like we usually get a worse seeding than what I thought we deserved. That is part of the reason I am asking the forum what they think the best possible seed for us is—because I am usually proved overly optimistic when answering this question by myself.

I would say we have an outside chance at a 3 if we win out, with a 4 being guaranteed if we win out.

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