Thanks for all the updates Matt, we all appreciate it.
Thanks for all the updates Matt, we all appreciate it.
No problemā¦hopefully one of these days in the near future my update will read Towns to UM!
Pick Central edges Northland 62-60 on buzzer-beating basket from Ibi Watson. Jalen Tate steals ball from Seth Towns to set up winning play
ā ThisWeek Sports (@ThisWeekSports) January 25, 2015
New film on Towns from last nightās game vs Watson. The last 2 pieces of footage weāve seen from Towns are quite impressive. From an athletic standpoint, heās simply a different player in relation to 6-9 months ago. Much quicker first step, and his verticality has improved. His passing in transition is impressive. Continue to believe Towns is underranked - JB and co. did a great job of identifying Towns early. Towns is so much more versatile in relation to a guy like Irvinā¦donāt understand how Zak was a top 30 player on most sites, whereas Towns is 55-100. Makes no sense at all
Dylan previously posted film on this kid in the fall, but the quality was pretty poor. Do any of you guys have any new film?
Michigan Head Coach John Beilein will be in to see FULL PACKAGE 2016 Rapolas Ivanauskas (Barrington HS) today for practice @FPbasketball
ā Sean Connor (@srchoops) January 29, 2015
Film on Ivanauskas from March 2014 - not a fan of his game based on the film below. Very slow release on his shot, very soft handle, below average/poor athelte. No need for this type of player when Duncan has 3 years of eligibility left.
Duncan will have 2 years of eligibility left (assuming no grad year) and Wilson will be in the same boat. Not someone I would take over Seth Towns but I expect them to play two diff. roles in the offense.
Film on Ivanauskas from March 2014 - not a fan of his game based on the film below. Very slow release on his shot, very soft handle, below average/poor athelte. No need for this type of player when Duncan has 3 years of eligibility left.
In a vacuum, I like him. But when taking into account our scholarship situation and roster makeup, I agree that he isnāt really what the team needs. Barring a dramatic roster shakeup, our priority for 2016 should be on finding a creator.
Duncan will have 2 years of eligibility left (assuming no grad year) and Wilson will be in the same boat. Not someone I would take over Seth Towns but I expect them to play two diff. roles in the offense.
Good catch, Duncan will have only 2 years left.
Just think kids like this are a dime a dozen. This kidās ceiling would seem to be Schurna from NW. Even if we were to land Towns, I just donāt see the need for this kid. Towns is the shooter/handler in oneā¦you can find other shooters that are more athletic and can defend better.
Duncan will have 2 years of eligibility left (assuming no grad year) and Wilson will be in the same boat. Not someone I would take over Seth Towns but I expect them to play two diff. roles in the offense.Good catch, Duncan will have only 2 years left.
Just think kids like this are a dime a dozen. This kidās ceiling would seem to be Schurna from NW. Even if we were to land Towns, I just donāt see the need for this kid. Towns is the shooter/handler in oneā¦you can find other shooters that are more athletic and can defend better.
Iām going to see him live a week from Friday. Iāll report back. Iām hesitant to evaluate him off of sophomore tapeāas you, yourself pointed out with respect to Towns, his tape this year looks vastly different from his tape last year.
Two comments about what you said. First, Iād take John Shurna in a New York minute. These are Shurnaās stats for his soph-senior seasons at Northwesternā18.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, over 250 assists, with a 1.6/1 assist/turnover ratio, and an effective field goal percentage of 56.0%. Iām, not saying this kid will be Shurna, but Shurnaās are not a dime a dozen. He was first team All Big Ten as a senior (second team as a soph), and an honorable mention All-American his senior year. I donāt care how funky his shot looked, or how gangly he appeared, he produced, and did so on respectable Northwestern teams which beat a lot of good teams while he was there and the man on his team.
Second, while Towns may be better, weāre no lock to get Towns. I agree that there would be no reason to take both Towns and this kid, even if this kid is good enough, but our recruiting issues have made it clear that you need to look at multiple options.
Duncan will have 2 years of eligibility left (assuming no grad year) and Wilson will be in the same boat. Not someone I would take over Seth Towns but I expect them to play two diff. roles in the offense.Good catch, Duncan will have only 2 years left.
Just think kids like this are a dime a dozen. This kidās ceiling would seem to be Schurna from NW. Even if we were to land Towns, I just donāt see the need for this kid. Towns is the shooter/handler in oneā¦you can find other shooters that are more athletic and can defend better.
Iām going to see him live a week from Friday. Iāll report back. Iām hesitant to evaluate him off of sophomore tapeāas you, yourself pointed out with respect to Towns, his tape this year looks vastly different from his tape last year.
Two comments about what you said. First, Iād take John Shurna in a New York minute. These are Shurnaās stats for his soph-senior seasons at Northwesternā18.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, over 250 assists, with a 1.6/1 assist/turnover ratio, and an effective field goal percentage of 56.0%. Iām, not saying this kid will be Shurna, but Shurnaās are not a dime a dozen. He was first team All Big Ten as a senior (second team as a soph), and an honorable mention All-American his senior year. I donāt care how funky his shot looked, or how gangly he appeared, he produced, and did so on respectable Northwestern teams which beat a lot of good teams while he was there and the man on his team.
Second, while Towns may be better, weāre no lock to get Towns. I agree that there would be no reason to take both Towns and this kid, even if this kid is good enough, but our recruiting issues have made it clear that you need to look at multiple options.
Certainly agree with you itās hard to evaluate from film 1 year ago, thatās why I made the disclaimerā¦he could be much better at this point.
While I do understand Shurna was effective at NW, his stats are inflated because he played for bad teams. Could he have produced like that at UM. Doubt it. From the film above, Ivanauskas looks very one dimensional, and canāt play a lick of defense/rebounding. Iāll take a pass if his game hasnāt significantly improved
Yeah so I donāt usually chime in evaluations and the like, but ummmā¦ MattD I think you are really being insulting to Shurna. Whatever he was or wasnāt he was several times the player this Ivanauskas kid is. Viewing this film through the prism of a sophomore player with time to grow into his body and out of his awkwardness maybe things can/will change, but I donāt see it from that film.
Yeah so I don't usually chime in evaluations and the like, but ummm... MattD I think you are really being insulting to Shurna. Whatever he was or wasn't he was several times the player this Ivanauskas kid is. Viewing this film through the prism of a sophomore player with time to grow into his body and out of his awkwardness maybe things can/will change, but I don't see it from that film.
Didnāt mean to insult Schurna, the kid certainly turned out to be a productive player for NW. That is why I said Ivanauskasā ceiling is Shurna
Didn't mean to insult Schurna, the kid certainly turned out to be a productive player for NW. That is why I said Ivanauskas' ceiling is Shurna
Just giving you a little crapā¦ I read your original statement and just chose to ignore the word āceilingā
Scout bumped him to #55 in their latest relase FYI. They have Towns at 90. I still think they have Towns way too low. I hope we get him. I canāt imagine how OSUās roster looks appealing to him. Hopefully we overcome the fan in him.
Duncan will have 2 years of eligibility left (assuming no grad year) and Wilson will be in the same boat. Not someone I would take over Seth Towns but I expect them to play two diff. roles in the offense.Good catch, Duncan will have only 2 years left.
Just think kids like this are a dime a dozen. This kidās ceiling would seem to be Schurna from NW. Even if we were to land Towns, I just donāt see the need for this kid. Towns is the shooter/handler in oneā¦you can find other shooters that are more athletic and can defend better.
Iām going to see him live a week from Friday. Iāll report back. Iām hesitant to evaluate him off of sophomore tapeāas you, yourself pointed out with respect to Towns, his tape this year looks vastly different from his tape last year.
Two comments about what you said. First, Iād take John Shurna in a New York minute. These are Shurnaās stats for his soph-senior seasons at Northwesternā18.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, over 250 assists, with a 1.6/1 assist/turnover ratio, and an effective field goal percentage of 56.0%. Iām, not saying this kid will be Shurna, but Shurnaās are not a dime a dozen. He was first team All Big Ten as a senior (second team as a soph), and an honorable mention All-American his senior year. I donāt care how funky his shot looked, or how gangly he appeared, he produced, and did so on respectable Northwestern teams which beat a lot of good teams while he was there and the man on his team.
Second, while Towns may be better, weāre no lock to get Towns. I agree that there would be no reason to take both Towns and this kid, even if this kid is good enough, but our recruiting issues have made it clear that you need to look at multiple options.
Certainly agree with you itās hard to evaluate from film 1 year ago, thatās why I made the disclaimerā¦he could be much better at this point.
While I do understand Shurna was effective at NW, his stats are inflated because he played for bad teams. Could he have produced like that at UM. Doubt it. From the film above, Ivanauskas looks very one dimensional, and canāt play a lick of defense/rebounding. Iāll take a pass if his game hasnāt significantly improved
I agree that Shurnaās stats were inflated by playing for Northwester, though one might argue that on a lesser team, where you are getting most of the attention, you are less likely to be efficient, and more likely to be a volume shooter/scorer, and Shurna was, in fact, very efficient. That said, if Shurna would have produced at Michigan at the level of say Zak Irvin this year, or maybe even Zack Novak as a senior, heās still a contributor Iād like to have provided that heās not the best or second best player on your team. Context matters. If John Shurna is part of a class with two great players, or a team with three or four great ones, Iām all in. If heās your lynchpin, then you likely have issues. Put into class of '16 context, IF this kid is Shurna-like, and heās part of a class with two of Battle, Langford, Winston, etc., then heās potentially a very valuable piece. If heās the best player in the class, uh oh. FWIW, I think that of Towns as well.
Again, I have no opinion of Ivanauskas until I see him liveājust a theoretical discussion.
Scout bumped him to #55 in their latest relase FYI. They have Towns at 90. I still think they have Towns way too low. I hope we get him. I can't imagine how OSU's roster looks appealing to him. Hopefully we overcome the fan in him.
Towns at #90 is an absolute joke. Not trying to down any HS player, but in what world is TJ Leaf the #10 player in the countryā¦and Towns is 80 spots behind him. Can anyone honestly say that Leaf is that much better than Towns. Quite frankly, I like Towns more than Leaf based on versatility
The recruiting sites have seen Leaf more (playing on the adidas circuit) and he had an impressive offer list and that is why he is ranked super high. By saying he is #10, that means they believe he is a NBA player. At 17 or 18, he reminds me a bit of Nick Fazekas from Nevada. I think he is a heck of a player, as is Towns. Donāt think that they are 80 spots apart but no one thought Trey Burke was were he shouldāve been.
Scout bumped him to #55 in their latest relase FYI. They have Towns at 90. I still think they have Towns way too low. I hope we get him. I can't imagine how OSU's roster looks appealing to him. Hopefully we overcome the fan in him.Towns at #90 is an absolute joke. Not trying to down any HS player, but in what world is TJ Leaf the #10 player in the countryā¦and Towns is 80 spots behind him. Can anyone honestly say that Leaf is that much better than Towns. Quite frankly, I like Towns more than Leaf based on versatility
Brian Snow has been a little bullish on Towns, I think he will top out 70-80 based on who is doing his ranking. I was floored to see Ivanauskus at 55 though. Like another poster said, I like him in a vacuum, seems redundant on the roster though. Looking forward to that live report. He must have gotten a lot better.
Scout bumped him to #55 in their latest relase FYI. They have Towns at 90. I still think they have Towns way too low. I hope we get him. I can't imagine how OSU's roster looks appealing to him. Hopefully we overcome the fan in him.Towns at #90 is an absolute joke. Not trying to down any HS player, but in what world is TJ Leaf the #10 player in the countryā¦and Towns is 80 spots behind him. Can anyone honestly say that Leaf is that much better than Towns. Quite frankly, I like Towns more than Leaf based on versatility
Brian Snow has been a little bullish on Towns, I think he will top out 70-80 based on who is doing his ranking. I was floored to see Ivanauskus at 55 though. Like another poster said, I like him in a vacuum, seems redundant on the roster though. Looking forward to that live report. He must have gotten a lot better.
Ivanauskas being ranked 35 spots ahead of Towns is absolutely ridiculousā¦heās not even on the same stratosphere as Towns if the film above is any indicator.