Yeah, constant mediocrity is not what that program expects.
Really? He went 38-16 in his first 3 years in the B1G. I mean, they havenât had great success in the tourney, but in the 6 years before he got there they only made the tourney 3 times and never made it out of the first second round.
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I think it has to do with the great stretch they had in the early 2000âs, they just have their hearts set on better things, despite Turgeon not being bad necessarily. Heâs certainly had some underachieving teams post season wise, and if you look at his kenpom âluckâ ratings (AKA close games) the Big Ten record can be explained pretty well.
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For context on that 38-16 record, they went 8-0 on conference games decided by 6 points or less in 2015 (The year they went 14-4 in the B10 and blew up the hype). Some luck there.
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Wow, I didnât go through specific games. That stat is crazy.
Yeah, it seems like Turgeon has been lucky (and having Trimble for 3 years has something to do with that). Still, averaging 13 wins in the B1G is pretty good, and you kind of have to let the luck run out before you ditch the guy. I do think that their run in the early 2000s mustâve a lot to do with it, but those were literally their only two Final Four appearances ever and theyâve only had 4 E8 appearances. Itâs not like theyâve been a basketball blue blood.
Yeah, I think heâs safe at least another year. Tough to fire a guy after the injuries theyâve dealt with.
Watched the game and just saw the highlights again, did MAAR commit lane violations on both of his FTs at the end? Not that those ever get called really, just looked like he did to me.
He can step over once he releases that ball, right? Thatâs how it seems to be called currently.
Oh, you might be right. I thought it had to hit the rim first.
It might have to (it seems like it would be weird to have an exception for the shooter), but I feel like I always see shooters falling forward before it hits. I think itâs just something they donât call.
Can I get anyone else to second me on that being an illegal (moving) screen? Itâs plain as day on the replay and I thought I saw it live. Are we sure they were switching on the screen, because Charles didnât seem in on it? He seemed to try to fight through the screen and he somehow has a nasty habit of sticking like glue to a screen, but their big man was totally moving on that. I know itâs a hard call to make in that spot, but it was 100% the right call, imo.
Just watched it. It was moving. I feel like it was decently subtle though. Not surprised it wasnât called even with the ref looking right at it.
Not sure whether or not they were switching. I donât get why you wouldnât be switching everything, but Matthews is trying superhard to fight through the screen, and Livers doesnât seem to be playing defense at all like he should be switching (he doesnât even seem to realize that his man is setting a screen).
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I kind of think he was moving enough that it was pretty risky. Then again, those guys had a full game of knowing what they were and werenât getting away with so they would know better than I would how not subtle it had to be before it was worth worrying about.
Pretty sure shooter has to wait til it hits ring. High school made the switch a year or two ago to that rule.
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I donât really mind the no call because it was consistent with the rest of the game.
Are you sure about that? What Iâm reading says that in 2014-15 they made it so the free throw shooter could enter the free throw semi-circle after releasing the ball? âThe free-throw shooter is the only player allowed in the semicircle prior to the ball contacting the ring or backboard.â https://www1.arbitersports.com/Groups/110617/Library/files/Protecting%20the%20Free%20Thrower.pdf
But I confess Iâm not sure what the âfree throw semicircleâ is
Yeah, Iâd have to rewatch. It was a game that I got pretty emotional during (frustrated - then elated - then concerned - then in despair - then with great relief, lol) and was watching on short sleep so there were things I was paying attention to and then some stuff I probably missed. I donât recall having a problem with moving screens during the game.
Free throw semicircle is the semicircle at the top of the key that the free throw shooter shoots from. Everyone must be outside of the 3 point line unless you are lined up in the designated spots right outside the paint.
Not sure what the college rule is on when you can step in the paint
Thatâs what I thought (about what the semicircle is) and now I get what theyâre saying - the whole thing is about not letting a defender throw a backside into the FT shooter until the ball hits the rim - what I quoted has nothing to do with the FT shooter being allowed in the lane or not. It looks like technically youâre not supposed to be allowed to step over the line as the FT shooter until thereâs contact with the rim.