Michigan accepts athletes that meet the minimum requirements. That’s my point. The only infractions I’m aware of at UNC regard phony classes and tutors, which while bad doesn’t address the issue.
Arizona - they paid someone to falsify a kids record so the kid would qualify, right?
I know you are focused on admissions standards in this discussion. Neither of the examples I provided are specifically about admissions - but where there is smoke there is often fire. There are patterns that emerge that go to the integrity/character of an institution. And integrity tends to bleed across all processes within an institution/business. Hence the response to the statement. Call me a bleeding heart Wolverine, a homer, or whatever. But, I believe our institution has a higher standard of integrity across the board than many other “Power 5” institutions, and that it extends all the way down to admissions for scholarship student-athletes. We may not create stricter standards, but we uphold those in place.
Have known people in UM admissions for nearly 30 years. Generally this is how it works.
Starts with meeting ncaa standards. From there points are assigned based on gpa, test score, extra curriculars etc. Some are identified as risks and coaches are limited in the number of folks that UM can accept that fall within that category. Some times those rules are relaxed.
Sometimes players are informed in advance what they must do to pass admissions during their late junior senior years. Normally the requirements are pretty easy to meet.
The minimum credit/class requirement calculation process has become very complicated over the years as players are transferring from school to school, are attending schools that have spotty record keeping practices and/or attending non-traditional high school in non-traditional settings requiring UM to figure out in these instances how to identify legitimate academic progress.
The virus situation only further complicates things because now you have schools granting graduation status to seniors who have not necessarily completed their course work. Furthermore, those whom the university has laid out a performance plan to, are limited in their abilities to meet those objectives because their schools are largely shutting down.
“The transcripts we sometimes see these days are a mess.”
I know a lot of UM fans want to think that there is something exceptional about the university when it comes to academic standards. “We’re better cause, we went to UM and you didn’t” otherwise the whole academic superiority construct falls apart. Notwithstanding the repulsiveness of such an attitude, when it comes to UM and athletics, UM’s standards and operations aren’t much different than the other schools in the conference. And the sooner the fan base owns it, the more honest the discussions that follow will be.
I’ll also add that prospects flat out have much better grades and test scores these days too. This is due to the proliferation of online schooling, more tutor programs, technology that makes information way more accessible, and more early awareness of NCAA minimum requirements. In the early years when I started following recruiting, specifically football recruiting, it seemed like every year 35% of the top 50 prospects had qualification rumors around their recruitments. Rivals used to do post signing day and enrollment recruiting rankings because so many top kids wouldn’t qualify. That has changed a ton, theres way less kids with grade issues these days. If you look at the juco and post grad prep school recruiting rankings you’ll really notice it. Those recruiting pools are like 10% of what they used to because theres no where close to the amount of non qualifiers there used to be. This why I laugh at um fans, almost always um football fans, try and use higher qualifications standards as an excuse. 1. UM goes by the b1g minimums 2. Even if they had higher standards theres a way bigger pool of prospects with really good grades than there used to be. Transfers and jucos are valid excuses though, as those can cause major issues with um admissions.
As mentioned yesterday:
Good move by the GLeague to make their own team. That’s much better for Todd. Can’t blame him at all
Really unfamiliar with this G league process. Currently how are teams comprised? What do you mean by “good idea to make their own team”?
Thanks
Believe he’s saying it is better to put them in their own team/academy set up because if they were on a traditional G League team that is associated with an NBA team, there would be mixed incentives as far as prioritizing their development.
By keeping kids like Green, Todd, etc. on the same team you can create a structure that is built around supporting them and developing them.
They’re making a “team” comprised of just the guys in this program. So they aren’t battling for minutes with grown men and get personal development
How will the rest of the team be accumulated? There can’t be that many recruits that will just jump straight to the G-League next season?
Also there’s less incentive for a g-league affiliate to give major minutes and development to a guy who’s not under contract with the parent team
Just like 80% of all other g-league rosters I assume.
Tidbit from Jonathan Givony who I believe owns part of an NBL franchise or is super involved in the league, Isaiah Todd wanted to play in it and was pursuing it all year. Man Juwan got straight played. That kid was 100% never even thinking of coming here.
Uh huh and what happened in the last week?
He finally got offered a deal?
I think your last sentence–regardless of a young man ‘maximizing his market value’ as every other person in America is counseled to do–is almost certainly false.
Said the the NBL couldn’t commit to him fully during the season. Now with the cornovirus, now not only are there the actual virus concerns but the nbl is in some rough financial shape and asking for payouts and couldn’t give him an offer.
So is this the NBA’s attempt to build a bridge to players coming out of high school to avoid making them immediately eligible for the draft? If they built a team of 14 and paid every guy $500k it’d be a drop in the bucket for them.
I doubt that’s it per se. I think the NBA realizes that there a number of kids who attend college not because they’re interested in college but because it’s a showcase for playing pro.
Meanwhile, tons of kids leave school early (or a growing number never go) and don’t get drafted, and once they go overseas are rarely heard from again, despite the GLeague having a lower quality of play than top European leagues.
I think the thought is that if they can build the G League into a league that is the equivalent of the AAA in baseball, they’ll keep more of those kids closer to the league, in their own development pipeline, playing an NBA style game. Doing that will just deepen the overall talent pool.
Rod Strickland was vocal on Twitter about how good Howard would be as a coach and recruiter. And there was a little buzz about Strickland being an option for the staff.
Not that there would be anyway but I bet there’s no hard feelings on Howard’s end with Todd ending up in the GLeague.
I’m having a tough time understanding why Todd would have committed in the first place if he was never even thinking of coming here. I don’t see how that would have benefited him at all. My inclination is that he was interested in coming here but other factors prevented him from doing so.