MSU might beat us by 30+.
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I just saw so much defensive hustle in that highlight reel. My God.
Hopefully Iâm within my bounds to speak candidly now. The change shouldâve been made at the end of last year but the Kam miracle shot changed perception, but not the trajectory.
But firing him now serves no purpose in my view.
@chezaroo I believe brought this up, but ummmm⌠two of the âwinsâ on my very pessimistic prediction weâve already lost. 5-13 anyone?
Dammit Kam⌠Hurting us even after he left the program.
Donât worry, like most bottom-dweller Big Ten teams, weâll luck into a home win against a top end team.
He needs to go . Iâm thankful for everything he has done here but this is insane. I watched the FSU Duke game ,and FSU has way more talent than us, and its embarrassing. Remember Dwayne Bacon and the pg at Rutgers ? They both wanted to visit but didnât bc JB cooled on them bc they didnât âFITâ. With that mindset Iâm Positive if a Jalen Rose of today was born and raised in the D Michigan would not offer. Either you evolve on how you recruit or get left behind.
I disagree. Let Donlon show what he can do with this group. He is a defensive mind who has been told to hold his tongue and heâs exactly what this team needs. This group needs a fire lit under them and I feel our best option is to give him the reigns and show what he can do. Beilein may have lost this group and we donât want 3 more years of it, lets get ahead of this train wreck.
In my brief history on this earth, from what Iâve been told by several coaches, When a team stops responding and playing hard for a coach, a change is coming. Why wait? I love Beilein just as much if not more than anyone, but heâs lost this group and itâs becoming more clear every game.
My thoughts are as follows:
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I hated what I saw out there tonight. The defense was atrocious, as usual. I donât know whatâs happened between the SMU/Marquette games and now, but we went from being a team that cared, and gave strong effort defensively (with good results), to being awful on that end.
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Two (very minor) bright spots on offense - MAAR and Wilson. Several more boneheaded plays from our seniors Walton and Irvin. They are just not very good.
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The attitude of our athletic department toward basketball is that as long as we generally make the tourney, and do it cleanly, they will be happy. I know many of you donât like to accept that, but itâs reality. And thatâs why I donât see JB going anywhere even if we miss the tourney.
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But I would say this - if the new groups of players he brings in during 2017 and 2018 donât show signs of competing for a Big Ten title at some point, we canât and wonât continue down this path forever.
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I know angry fans donât like to be bothered with facts, but again, coaches and teams do have slumps. Jay Wright went from a Final Four, to a 13-18 season, to winning it all. Look at all the success Thad Matta has had over the years, and OSU is now is jeopardy of missing the tourney again (with a few highly ranked classes no less, though half the team did transfer). Matt Painter was very successful in his first five years at Purdue, then had two years in a row where his team finished under .500 and missed the tourney. Similarly, Mike Brey went 15-17 a few years back, and then won 32 the next year.
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So, I think JB will be given a chance to show these last three years have been a fluke. And again, you canât discount injuries - Caris (twice), Spike, Irvin, Walton. Those matter. But I donât think he should or will get a pass forever.
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JB deserved and earned this season. He deserves peopleâs criticism and disappointment, but I dont think anybody can deny that he earned this season. But, disagreeing with you seems like a foolâs errand, in this moment.
Not at all. I think he earned this year as well. However, If I were the AD and my job depended on the basketball program being successful for the next 5 years, I wouldâve fired JB at the end of last season
The issue is that his job doesnât depend on the programâs success in the slightest bit.
But it doesnât. Football is the priority. And they would prefer a mediocre to decent basketball team over another Ed Martin situation.
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I agree now that we shouldâve, but donât make another mistake and let us finish 5-13 in the big ten and get blown out by shitty teams every week. Looking at our roster, how many big ten teams have less talent up n down the roster than we do? I can honestly say 3-4 teams MAYBE? Thatâs all on Beilein
Exactly. Harbaugh, period.
Someone needs to get Harbaugh to give them an ass kicking for their effort.
You have to be kidding me! Iâve been saying that to you for over a year and you battled me over it to no end lol
I was the ass of many jokes when I suggested Jim could get more out of this team then JB. I firmly believe it. Players will respond to Harbaugh, period.
If some kid who is 6â5 who committed to Tulane can come off the bench for 11 points and 5 rebounds and our starting center/power forward who are both 6â11 have 5 rebounds combined, SOMETHING has to change.