listen cooley could work and has holes. depending on who you talk yourself into, you will see the holes more glaringly in others.
at end of the day none of us care who it is as long as we have success.
listen cooley could work and has holes. depending on who you talk yourself into, you will see the holes more glaringly in others.
at end of the day none of us care who it is as long as we have success.
Perhaps the $6 million includes incentive potential, or includes assistants pool & incentives. Or maybe Manuel & Cooley are just really good friends.
I am so lukewarm on Cooley. A good percentage of the fan base will be in open rebellion, heās not going to get the luxury that Beilein had of taking a few years to get it together. I just have a really hard time believing Manual would be this out of touch, because he goes down on this Cooley ship if it doesnāt show almost immediate success.
If itās true and that contract is even close to 6, or any more than Beilein made for that matter, itās just bad business all around.
I am totally OK with Ed Cooley. I would hope he keeps some of the present assistants, in particular Yak. But even with an all new staff, I am still OK with the guy.
He made the NCAA tournament for 5 of 6 years at a podunk school. He will do better at Michigan. If the coach is a class guy and makes the tournament on a consistent basis, heās fine. His age is just right (49) and, if successful, he will stick around.
I think calling Cooley a nice guy is underselling part of his appeal. Heās a high character guy who connects very well with his players. They buy in and play their hardest for him.
Itās easy for me to see that in Juwan too. Plenty of coaches are nice guys, but not great leaders.
Cooley might work and i have nothing against him personally, actually i like him a lot. but it will be plainly clear that he is not up to this job, he may regret from day 1.
Ed Coolie staying at Providence as per a twitter user with the handle PrimeTacoJay.
This was posted by a TMI moderator to the 247 page. Not sure if credible.
I still want Juwan Howard the most and it is not even close but if we hire Cooley I do have faith he can get the job done. I donāt believe it would be a disastrous hire unless we really do offer him 6 million.
Totally agree about his high character, which makes it even a bigger tragedy if he is badly treated and fails here.
As Iāve outlined. His teams are not the much better than the usual Providence teams. Itās just that the Big East being weaker and smaller makes it more feasible for them to make the tournament, and heās gotten luck with multiple teams in the 60s barely squeaking in
Cooley doesnāt seem to make a ton of sense for either side. Cooley is a beloved native son already getting paid $2.6 million there. While he may give a good press conference, at UM heād be the guy following the beloved coach who took the job from one of the most beloved players in program history. He could coach ten years there and make the tournament 7 times, win a couple games, and still be beloved. Here he could make the tournament 3 out of 4 years and be on the hot-seat by the end of his fifth. Cooleyās style also seems a better fit for a place like Providence than Michigan, where deep runs and championships are expected. I know Michigan is a special place and a āstep upā from Providence, better chance of championship, etc., but I think thereās a strong chance heād look back on the decision to leave unfavorably.
Obviously anybody leaving will have a tough act to follow, but with Juwan youād have a ton of support and leeway, and LaVall would be a semi-homegrown guy with strong backing, while Butler carries some of its own perhaps unfair expectations. Even Shaka, he may not love his situation in Texas where he was thought to be the savior and now Barnes is doing well in Tennessee, and would come in with lower expectations.
Cooley seems like an admirable guy and a fine coach and Iād root for him to succeed, of course, but it really doesnāt make a ton of sense to me.
People bring up his recruiting at a school like Providence, but I view his very mediocre track record despite being more talented than most Big East teams as a huge concern. Is he really gonna recruit better at Michigan? If he pays people maybe? The only thing thatāll change in the talent department is the opponents IMO.
Tom Penders chiming inā¦
Totally agree with this. Cooley turned his āgreatā recruiting at Providence into a 71-73 lifetime record in the Big East. I just cannot get myself excited about this idea.
In fairness, this year was his first losing season in the current iteration of the Big East. You can say that the change in the Big East helped them get to where they are for sure, but theyāve been above average in the current landsacpe, albeit barely
What does above average in the Big Least look like in the Big 10? Not great, Bob.
I donāt think thatās a good way to compare, but if he went to Michigan I would see us around .500 in conference every year. Similar to Iowa, which is obviously underwhelming
58-50 in the 6 years since the downsizing. 3rd best in the smaller Big East in that span.
Nova (90-18) and Xavier (66-42) are head and shoulders above the rest.
Cooley lands just above Creighton (56-52), Butler (54-54) and Marquette (52-56). Decent, not great.
John Beilein at WVU in the Big East (different Big East I know)
5-11 (6th West Division)
7-9 (8th)
8-8 (7th)
11-5 (3rd)
9-7 (7th)
Overal 40-40. However his teamās efficiencies had upward trajectories, which cooley has offensively sinking
Just gonna throw it out there- kenpom ranks Big East better than Big Ten in four of the six years since the Big East took its current form.