For me personally, the debate over Poole’s on-ball opportunities should have ended with Dylan’s coverage linked to above. It showed that Poole got chances on ball just like all the other SGs and Michigan have this decade, so there’s no need for continued to debate about it.
IMO my frustrations were primarily on the defensive end. It’s of course OK for guys to come into the college game unfinished and immature, and to learn as they go. I would have liked to see, from the first game against Sparty to the third, some progress on that side of the ball in terms of possession-to-possession consistency.
Anyhow, all that’s in the past now and cannot be changed. Poole seems like a nice kid and definitely fun, and on balance I feel good about his time in the program even if it ended with a bit of controversy. But for the future, if he and his dad have any concerns about standing in the corner that’s now Steve Kerr’s problem. Maybe they can go talk to Klay Thompson about what it means to go stand in the corner. Michigan needs to move on too.
The majority of the players on this team have fathers who have registered Twitter complaints about the program? I want the names so that I can engage them in battle.
Battle! Poole’s dad was obviously a bit outspoken as far as the Twitter incident when the season ended (notably: when the season – and his kid’s Michigan career – was over) and he got caught up in the heat of the moment.
I mean that the things he was saying, the frustrations with how a player is used, etc. those are very common across college basketball.
I’m sure parents exist on a spectrum from ideal to less than in terms of that stuff, and lots of them probably think things they don’t necessarily broadcast on social media. I don’t typically follow players or their families on twitter and that’s the first time that kind of content has found its way into my timeline.
Certainly it might be the nature of how the season ended, and his kid’s particular role in that, but then you’re getting pretty chicken-and-egg.
My point was that the Twitter thing was insignificant as far as its impact. It was after the season. That sort of conversation goes on behind closed doors in every program in the country. The stuff behind closed doors is more important than a tweet after the season.
Sure – makes sense. From a fan’s standpoint though, you certainly assume lots goes on behind closed doors that’s never aired in public. Given that this was the rare instance in which it spilled out, it’s only logical to use that to make an educated guess at Poole’s dad’s approach to parent-coach relationships compared to the many other dads we’ve never heard from.
I don’t battle on Twitter nearly as often as I should (more of a MySpace guy), but I can’t recall any other program parents going to Twitter to disparage coach and player. Who knows though, maybe pappy Teske has been roasting Beilein on Friendster for years and I’m just not hip enough to have noticed.
Posts from HS coaches are very valuable for lots of stuff, and thanks to those of you who contribute here, but you don’t need to be a coach to follow the main twitter accounts and watch to see whether parents popping off like that is a common thing. It’s clearly not, and the vast majority of them have the ability to keep it behind closed doors where it belongs.
He didn’t disparage anyone. He expressed frustration because twitter eggs were blasting JP in the replies to Michigan basketball tweets. A very natural and human thing to do, come to the defense of your child. I’m sure it has happened at lots of places, but it’s pretty much a non-story to anyone outside of the specific program.
This is an interesting discussion. As a believer in JP from the beginning, I’m happy to tell the doubters and haters that I told you so!!! I can’t understand the haters or the doubters, for that matter. JP had a great two years at Michigan and was a main reason the team made it to a NC game and a second sweet sixteen. He was an elite scorer at times, taking over several games. Like any young player, he has his flaws and had his ups and downs but always put forth his best effort, improving in all facets. Unfortunately, his growth was naturally limited by the college game and the makeup of the team. He was exciting to watch with an obvious love for the game AND his teammates. Players like JP are all that make Michigan basketball great. If you doubted his potential, you don’t know much about basketball. If you hated him, you aren’t a real Michigan fan.
That’s gotta be hard, to see strangers going off on your kid on twitter. No doubt about it. But Beilein deserves a measure of respect too though. Has a proven track record of teaching kids and putting them in the pros. Deserves better than to have his coaching questioned on social like that. Keep it behind closed doors like almost every other parent does.
Or, for all I know, keep at it. Go tell Steve Kerr how to do it. See where that gets you.
Sure he did. He criticized Simpson by name and Beilein by proxy. Publicly. Doesn’t get any clearer than that. If that’s normal then I haven’t been paying attention, which is certainly possible.
No doubt he should not have done it. But I think Mr. Poole respects Beilein. Agree with @tarverine, he just expressed (in a reply to one person mind you, I’m sure he wasn’t trying to get everyone’s attention) what a LOT of other sports parents think.
They may think it but the vast majority are able to keep it to themselves or air those concerns privately. Did he even mention Z in that tweet? I forget, but, if so, even worse. Your boy’s out there snoozing his way through key defensive possessions for the third rivalry game in a row and you’re popping off about Z? Geez.
Battle! Poole’s dad was obviously a bit outspoken as far as the Twitter incident when the season ended (notably: when the season – and his kid’s Michigan career – was over) and he got caught up in the heat of the moment.