Game 14: Michigan at Purdue Open Thread

Harsh reality: that team could not play a full 40-minute game. Is what it is.

It just says you’re living through a worldwide pandemic and therefore have literally nothing better to do on Friday night… like us all.

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Some fun while we wait for Kenpom…Other than that one fluky UConn national championship, the last 9 title winners have been in the top 11 in the country in both kenpom offense and defense.

There’s only three teams that currently qualify this year: Baylor, Michigan and Virginia

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It’s really absurd to say a team that won 30 games couldn’t play a full 40 minutes game.

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bUT thEy LoSt tO mIcHIgaN stAtE

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They underperformed in big games (3 times vs MSU and vs TT), mostly because of second half collapses, so I see where you’re coming from. But I wouldn’t say they couldn’t play a 40 minute game. That team beat the crap out of UNC and Villanova by playing 40 minute games.

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The MSU stuff was frustrating but that team to me was just the perfect case study for how much luck it takes to make runs in March. They could have easily been the 4th or 5th best team in the country behind UVA, Texas Tech, MSU, Duke but got no breaks and ran into a buzzsaw.

It’s still weird for me to remember the Moe Wagner team as “better”. More memorable or more lovable maybe. But if the 2019 team got a draw where they didn’t have to beat a team seeded higher than 7th…they’re probably in the title game too. They destroyed average to bad teams all season long.

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Is Eli Brooks the new Stu Douglass?

(Eli is better, but similar profiles)

@CursedBlue thinks so!!

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Eli is the new MAAR. MAAR could do more but it’s close enough.

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In my opinion, Rahk was an appreciably better offensive player and worse defensive player.

Stu was always our best defensive guard with a…fitful offensive performance level.

That was a very good team, especially defensively, but it didn’t quite have the offensive firepower to be national title-caliber IMO. Poole had a streaky year shooting and when he was off, scoring could be a chore.

IIRC, we had the lead in the second half of all three MSU games but each time we hit a brutal scoring drought. And then against TT we couldn’t get going at all.

Oops way off.
https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/16/michigan-basketball-jordan-brand-shoes/

Must be nice to have the perks of custom Jordans. They do look clean

Yeah not going to refute that. MAAR could get to the paint and finish really well which has been Eli’s weakness. But I think he’s improved in that area this year which is why I said it’s close enough.

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For ya’ll waiting on KenPom, I think the own goal is the bug. :rofl:

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It never gets talked about but Mathews’ injury in the first MSU game really stayed with him the rest of the year. I I’m not sure that MSU team ever got our best shot.

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Oh boy, I did a deep dive on this earlier as Buckets remembered lol. Here’s what I had (You can click the little arrow at the top right of the quote box to expand it fully):

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Yeah the blown leads got worse each game IIRC. Two of them were 10+ point chokes as well.

Felt bad for Iggy because he came to play in all three of those games and obviously he ended up winless vs MSU. The rest of the team just didn’t play well, especially Poole. A Charles Matthews injury was a big difference in the game at Crisler too I think.

Just one win out of the three would’ve gotten us a banner. Unfortunate.

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I thought it was pretty straightforward to deal with that, the offensive player who touched it last gets the bucket, right?

Well… They did

I got into too many arguments with MSU fans that year saying I’d take Michigan’s team over MSU’s even after Michigan dropped the first two games, but after the 3rd loss it just started to sound silly. That was a very good Michigan team, but I do think it lacked some scoring punch when the going got tough. Iggy was the best scorer by far, but he had his limitations. Great defense is nice, but I think to truly be a legitimate title contender you need to have a guy who can go get you a bucket when the team is struggling and you really need it. Against MSU and TT, Michigan just went through too many awful scoring droughts for me to put them above a couple of Beilein’s other teams.

They didn’t have a Burke or Stauskas. Give me the 2013 all day and twice on Sundays. I’d probably take the 2014 team too. I’ll give y’all the argument that 2019 > 2018 despite tournament results though.

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