Yea, but since we are in a “dead period” no unofficial to campus are allowed right now either
Sorry misread calendar. Dead period doesn’t start until July. Franz could unofficially visit until then
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Franz isn’t visiting again, there are no face to face meetings that will take place. He lives in Germany and just visited last month. It’s not exactly an easy or cheap unofficial visit. I’m sure he has all of the information he needs anyways. He will likely decide one way or another in the next week or two.
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And yet the Alba Team owner could camp out in the Wagner front yard 24/7. LOL yet it isn’t funny.
Yes, Alba has nothing to do with the NCAA.
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One of Alba’s arguments for Him to stay would be that they don’t have to follow NCAA rules.
There’s no hourly limit of practice time etc.
Imagine how silly it sounds over there when they hear that coaches can only spend 4 hours per week with players in the summer.
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Aren’t NCAA rules fun?!? I know there may be good intent but sometimes they just get in the way of what is best for the kid and in helping him make perhaps the most important decision in his life up to this point!
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Yeah, it sounds pretty silly to some of us over here, too! 
This always was so ridiculous to me. I used to practice with the Ball State team over the summers when I was in college. I wasn’t an official part of the team, but could have a walk-on spot if I wanted it (I didn’t). From time to time the coach would send me with a list of stuff to work on with the team. One way to have some input, but still nothing hands on.
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Yeah, the rule has changed for the better so there is some practice time. I believe the old rule didn’t allow any on court time with coaches in the summer.
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I think that was the case. This was back in 2001 - 2004. Many years and a few beers later I don’t remember exactly what the deal was.
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There’s always pros and cons to any rule, but this one isn’t as bad as it seems. If they didn’t have a rule in place, there would be the 'ol “Mandatory Optional” practices. Coaches would setup practices and take notes on who shows up and who doesn’t. In any sport, most college athletes prefer to use the summer as a breather and get better on their own anyway.
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Hate to derail the thread, but I always enjoyed Super Dave Osborne on Letterman and know of course that Letterman went to Ball State. So I looked up the comedian and learned that Bob Einstein (Super Dave Osborne) passed away at the beginning of the year. I was looking to see if he had gone to Ball State too because of your screen name, but I guess not. Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled programming…
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The difference is that it is Division I college basketball, not suburban high school basketball.
When the whole team is on campus for a semester (like this summer semester, not the spring semester) it feels like there should be more opportunity for them to work directly with coaches.
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That can spiral out of control real quickly. What happens with the coach on a hot seat calling for mandatory practices all of July? How about the player or two who can only go home for a certain week and the coach wants mandatory practices during that time period? How about a team where everyone stays on campus and gets to practice while other teams have guys who need to be gone and don’t get that opportunity?
I don’t have any disagreements with how it’s currently setup. If anything, I can see a meet-in-the-middle where they’re allowed a team “mini camp” during Summer. That could allow a certain number of team practices where it can be planned out in advance so the whole team can be there.
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That’s where my nickname comes from. A bunch of us watched Super Dave growing up and all my buddies called me Super Dave through high school and college.
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The new rule is a step in the right direction.
For reference, this is the rule:
In basketball, a student-athlete who is enrolled in summer school may engage in required weight-training, conditioning and skill-related instruction for up to eight weeks (not required to be consecutive weeks). A student-athlete who is enrolled in at least three degree-applicable (pursuant to Bylaw 14.4.3.1.7) credit hours in one summer term that is fewer than eight weeks in duration may engage in required weight-training, conditioning and skill-related instruction for up to eight weeks (not required to be consecutive weeks). Participation in such activities shall be limited to a maximum of eight hours per week with not more than four hours per week spent on skill-related instruction.
You basically get 4 hours per week to work with guys. And they are mandatory and can only be for up to eight weeks. Michigan players take the spring off (or stay on campus for ‘Camp Sanderson’) and then are on campus for the summer term.
I don’t see a lot of harm in increasing that 4 hours per week limit. I’m not saying that there should be no rule though, there’s a difference. 4 hours is also a pretty significant increase from 0 hours as it was previously.
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I guess the question is then what is the sweet spot in hours allowed? To where those that can’t stay for the summer term aren’t missing out on much and those that are able to stay get just enough allowable time.
If you increase the hours enough, coaches are going to force their players to stay for the summer term.
The rules get skirted all the time anyway. Even in-season for some sports, coaches make mandatory practices that are “optional” which are led by the captains. I think in the summer, there has to be the most freedom for the players.
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My understanding is that summer term is already mandatory. If you have the grades then you can participate without enrolling in classes.
If that’s the case, then I would concede to your argument.
I don’t know if summer is mandatory. If it is, then yes it’s a little silly to restrict to 4 hours. I wouldn’t push it much higher but I agree it should be.