Detroit Pistons & NBA Talk (Part 2)

They’re gonna pivot to prediction markets bc that’s not betting it’s predicting

1 Like

I have so many hot takes about gambling in sports that this is only fueling, whether that’s fair or not

1 Like

Price of the brick just went….down

2 Likes

That’s only going to intensify their pursuit of NAW.

I sort of thought that the pursuit of NAW and re-signing of Malik sort of said something about Ivey’s future, but no longer!

1 Like

The price is now listed in yuan.

Pistons aren’t really in a position to wait on him either. Probably going in the direction of NAW. Hopefully not at Beasley’s number but still.

NAW is worth more than Beasley, imo

Bogdanovic retires

The FA hasn’t started yet and the Pistons are in a tough position. I fully expect them to be the cap space team by renouncing all of the players from cap space.

It’ll be interesting to see where they’ll go from there after the Shamwow news on Beasley. NAW becomes a bigger priority.

With all due respect, I don’t regard making terrible decisions on the app built to profit by prompting people to make terrible decisions “stupid” as much as a sign of a pretty crippling addiction

would the Feds be involved if he was betting on baseball?

Aside from the possibility that Beez is innocent, the only positives from a Piston perspective are: that this allegedly happened prior to last season and also that they’ve saved money one way or the other on his contract.

1 Like

You gotta love leaked stories on the eve of Free Agency!

I’m honestly not positive why the feds are involved in an individual placing bets, but I don’t think I argued he’s not betting on hoops or his own games. Generally for someone to do this, they’ve probably started walking down a dark path some time ago

(I am not asking for a legal explanation, I’m sure there is one, I think it’s a waste of time is my point)

1 Like

I would venture a guess that most professional athletes involved in these sort of syndicate/point shaving/player prop deals are probably vulnerable for other reasons rather than being hooked on gambling.

Presumably, other bad investment moves, wrong people around you, people convincing you it is a way to make money fast.

There are things like the Jameson Williams just betting on random sports at the Lionjs facility that are different but this feels more like the recent CBB investigations and Terry Rozier thing, etc.

1 Like

I sort of assume these decisions get made by already being in the hole

Gambling is addictive, it is carefully designed to be so. I don’t get shocked people do “stupid” things within that context, I just perhaps place the blame in a different place

In the hole, but for potentially a million reasons other than gambling. It’s just criminal organizations preying on people who are vulnerable.

That’s why there are so many of these investigations in CBB at tiny schools, things of that nature.

I just don’t think we should assume that the driving force to commit gambling fraud is gambling.

I think it’s definitely a force, won’t claim it’s THE force

(And if nothing else, the fact the apps are the vehicles via which these criminal interests operate is interesting!)

There’s just a big difference between being pressured/paid/blackmailed to shave points by criminal organizations moving 100s of thousands on prop bets and gambling on sports.

Maybe Beasley was actually just betting $10k on his under or something truly idiotic but these situations are usually a lot more complex.