College Basketball Open Discussion

What are you trying to prove here exactly?

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Minus losing jones twice, I felt that was a really good first half defensively. PSU hit a ton of shrug your shoulders type shots.

That clearly Michigan needs to be more like Virginia, who is currently 32 spots behind Michigan on Kenpom :man_shrugging:

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I’m not trying to prove anything. It’s a response (admittedly perhaps too sarcastic) to all the posts about how Charles Matthews (who was a great defender, yes) was responsible for Michigan being #3 and #2, respectively, in that category the past two years, the first of which featured Wagner and Robinson. The same posts which, equally sarcastically if I may say, gleefully point to Shaka Smart’s defense at Texas as proof that Luke Yaklich was overrated.

Players and coaching are each important. If you have both, you have an elite defensive team.

Every team of late seems to have made an awful lot of shrug your shoulders shots against Michigan. At a certain point, I think it’s more than that.

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Nah, I don’t want Michigan to be Virginia, though Michigan’s offense has looked nearly as ugly at times with all these missed shots.

It could be both. Guys making ridiculous looks and poor d/communication , effort and coaching. Some things aren’t always so cut and dry. Sprinkle a little of this a little of that and all of sudden it’s a mess.

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Anyone catch Memphis last night? I’m not sure how a team with their talent level loses 80-40 to Tulsa, but it happened.

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I noticed the score. A freshman-dominant team absolutely stinking up the gym on the road once in a while is never a surprise.

When people (and Juwan) talk about “positionless” basketball this is about as close as you can possibly get. All five guys on the court can dribble, pass, and shoot. Dayton’s offense is a ton of fun to watch:

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Crazy to me that Anthony Grant of all people is pulling this off. I know he spent some time in the NBA but still

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Key to playing positionless is having positionless talent… Obi Toppin in the A10 is a force. :rofl: Plus a roster loaded with juniors and seniors.

/whisper voice … Their best win is also over … Virginia Tech?

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Good point. I think Billy Donovan is a really, really good coach so his time as an assistant in OKC was probably great experience for Grant.

Probably Saint Mary’s, but yeah the fact that their only two chances at top 25 wins (at least according to kenpom) were overtime losses is gonna hurt during tourney seeding.

No doubt that Obi is what opens it all up.

But they’re a legitimately good team even if they don’t have the wins to show for it. That’s what adjusted stats are for, no?

Yeah, I think they are a good team and one of the most fun teams to watch in the country. Just think they will be hard to sort out in the postseason both for bracketing and projecting in the bracket.

Still have four good A10 road games left which should tell us something.

Kentucky five-star leaving… maybe transferring?Maybe something else?

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Hey, it has been mentioned a number of times how wing-heavy Michigan’s roster may be next year… everyone except Dickinson theoretically has a lot of that “positionless” skillset.

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Didn’t really intend for my comment to be Michigan specific. Just that any team’s ability to play positionless is very dependent on positionless players.

No, I know. Was just pointing out how Juwan had used that as a talking point and has recruited a bunch of wings who have the potential to be dribble-pass-shoot options.

Edit: when I say dribble-pass-shoot, at the college level that, to me, means can hit a perimeter jumper and attack a close-out.