College Basketball Open Discussion

Fair or not (and I don’t know the circumstances in this case), but this is why schools generally support outgoing transfer waiver claims. Very little reason not to as far as I can tell.

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NCAA is going to NCAA

Western has reason to lie if it’s true that they gave away his scholarship while he was in the portal. That’s part of why the implemented it in the first place and it’s a pretty crappy look for WMU if true.

OSU did the same with Carton. Schools are completely justified in recruiting over somebody in the portal.

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Would imagine he stays in the NBA but would certainly be the top college candidate for basically every school next spring.

I looked online and it says that it is the school’s choice as to whether they reinstate the student’s athletic aid if they withdraw from the portal so I was wrong.

So would Jay Smith and Chris Hunter be included in this?

Yes, that is my understanding.

Interesting regarding Olivier Sarr’s waiver at Kentucky…

I’m unaware of a similar rule in the Big Ten but I don’t have a copy of the eligibility handbook.

Since Kentucky has recently had several grad transfers, does this not apply to grad transfers, or has there been a conference waiver?

Full text of the rule is in the original tweet. Looks like it doesn’t apply to grad transfers.

Our annual 1st round opponents feeling the pain of the altered season.

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Timmy Falls gets one more shot at us in March.

This is from yesterday, but what a game!

https://apple.news/A5DOJDfmYPLC02TBAyALQFQ

Nate Oats sure making a recruiting impression so far.

We talk about who the Blue Bloods are in here quite a bit and UNC is pretty much always mentioned.
I was thinking about this a bit while I was watching the NBA Finals a couple of nights ago, seeing that Danny Green was the only Tar Heel in the Finals while there are 4 from UK and other universities with multiple players still going for a title. My mind then started wandering to who are UNC superstars right now? There aren’t any. Then I thought about All-Star games. Nothing. The last time a UNC player was in the NBA All-Star game was 2008, when both Rasheed Wallace and Antawn Jamison were named as reserves. While Michigan has had a longer drought (but has produced the same amount of top-10 picks since 2010), I found it interesting that it’s been so long but UNC is still lumped in with Duke, Kansas and Kentucky as the best of the best and seems to be a higher priority for recruits than we are.

Is it still the Jordan-mystique and branding?

Three National Championships and Six Final Fours in the last 20 years…

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Was just going to say that. 3 titles plus a runner up since 2005. That’s better than any program in the country.

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Three titles since 2000 seems to qualify as blue bloodedness, unless your definition sticks to recruiting, which doesn’t seem super fair. I think they just go after a different type of five star than Duke or Kentucky. I’m looking at their most recent championship team now and their starting lineup had several high four or five star upperclassmen that had pretty big NBA draft related faults that would keep them from being high picks. 247 composite #15 Theo Pinson couldn’t shoot, 30 Joel Berry was too small, 8 Justin Jackson wasn’t very athletic and was skinny, and 16 Isaiah Hicks was the opposite and had not much skill to go with his athleticism and motor.

They’re only a year removed from going 16-2 in the ACC. They had a three year stretch where they were mediocre for their standards (2012-2015, highest finish was 3rd in ACC and best tourney finish was Sweet 16). They followed that up with back-to-back NCAA title game appearances and one title. They’ve gone .500 or worse in ACC play 3x under Williams. The previous two times it’s happened, they won the tournament and went to the Elite Eight. We will see what happens this year.

In the last 5 years, they have more Final Fours than Kansas and Kentucky and Duke combined. Obviously that’s an arbitrary timeline, but they’re still a big time program.