That would be a “deal”, which would be brought forth by the defense. But I haven’t seen it characterized that way in my limited reading.
The law essentially reads that Miller would only be guilty if he knew the gun was going to be used in a crime.
Given that what takes place between the ears of an individual is unproveable, and assuming there is not a recording of him saying “here is the gun for the murder”, it’s sort of only a crime in theory.
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My point isn’t that they made a deal. It is just why would they overreach to charge people if there doesn’t seem to be grounds to charge them?
I think it would obviously be different if it was Miller’s gun.
The controversy doesn’t really seem legal at all as much as the audacity to just keep rolling like nothing happened by the basketball program. There’s plenty of gray area between wasn’t an accessory to murder and maybe should have been suspended.
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Regardless of whether or not Miller committed a crime as constituted by the law, I would look for someone who took part in something like this to at least be suspended, kicked off the team, etc. Oats as well, for his pure stupidity and acknowledgement that such behavior of his players is “meh, we said a prayer”.
Literally 0 ethical or moral standards being set here. Like you can lose your job for being unethical or violating standards as set out by your employer or organization, even if its not a crime. But that would mean consequences for actions and when it comes to sports, well, those don’t exist.
edit: the last part of what Dylan said above.
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A lot of schools–it emerged during some of the controversy surrounding Jameis Winston–have little unofficial task forces, four or five trusted advisors, who are alerted immediately when heck breaks loose with athletes, and interface with cops, admin, and athletic departments. It’s highly unlikely that Oats has been operating without pretty regular consultation on several fronts here. They got the word that Miller was not likely to be charged early, I imagine, and then worked to save AL’s season. But someone miscalculated.
And–yeah–Texas fired Chris Beard, anyway. The question shouldn’t be whether Miller is going to go to jail, but whether what he did merits discipline. In most people’s books, introducing a gun–what turned out to be the murder weapon–to an explosive situation, not working to defuse, alert people who might do that. . . not acceptable behavior. And it’s not good when you have to rehearse the difference with a danged college basketball coach.
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It is clear they are not going to do anything.
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Yeah, it is pretty obvious that they’ve understood the situation all along and are going to proceed as they’ve planned all along.
Would anyone change their mind if they suspend Miller for two games this week or something like that?
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Not really. I think having 3 players involved in the commission of a premeditated murder is maybe not quite Dave Bliss territory, but it’s awfully close, and I think an organization with a hint of morality would wash the entire staff.
One player gave a murderer his loaded gun.
Another player served as messenger for that gun. This player and another blocked the victims car so the killer could shoot him. This isn’t game suspension stuff.
In my view, Miles, Miller, and Bradley shouldn’t be associated with the school anymore, and any and every staff member aware of the three young men’s roles should go.
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Exactly – well, I’d be shocked if that happens, considering they didn’t do anything. Most people probably think something along the lines of what you are saying which basically leaves two decisions for Alabama: A) power through B) shut the whole thing down.
Well, I can tell you which they are going to choose.
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This statement certainly adds context to the situation, directly contradicts some things people have said here ex car blocking in the victim. I don’t think Oats handled this the best, but some comments make more sense if this is the story he’s telling
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So Miles happened to leave his gun in the back seat of Miller’s car, and wanted to go home at midnight, but patiently waited over an hour for Miller to pick him up (instead of finding another way home) and only then - knowing Miller was on his way - texted him about the gun, even though it was in the car all along? I don’t know.
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And Miller for absolutely no reason related to violence saw fit to let him know where the gun was and if it was loaded
Look wrong place wrong time
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Oh my expectation of what will happen is 100% the opposite of what I think is appropriate
Now we’ve received the whole true story from Miller’s attorney. Case closed.
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Defense attorneys are known for absolute truth at all times.
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So I can write Brandon back into my first team AA ballot thank god
“There’s a loaded gun my backseat!” I exclaim to absolutely no one, for absolutely no reason, as I wander away from my intentionally unlocked car, left blocking an egress.
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Don’t know if that’s the truth, but it’s plausible, to my mind.
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Big holes in that story. For instance it leaves out that he was knitting at the library
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There were rumblings of um interest here, have to say I would have preferred this one to Joey baker
I assume it would have been Carter over Llewellyn not Baker (which would also have been fine)
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