I’m a big fan of this one, as I can think of a handful of times where a guy catches an elbow to the face, but is whistled for the foul initially. If they see that it wasn’t a foul, they should be able to remove it, period.
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Zuby dooby doo
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I’d get rid of the flop warning/penalty. Not that I like flopping but it seemed very inconsistently enforced. If a ref thinks a guy flopped, it should just be a no-call. Let the offensive guy take advantage of the defender taking himself out of the play.
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They need to get rid out the out of bounds review under two minutes. Calls from the first 38 minutes do not need to be reviewed by the millisecond only because it’s under two minutes. Putting the same calls/plays in the last two minutes on a pedestal makes no sense to me. A normal out of bounds call in the first 38 minutes which looks like a regular call most people can live with and agree on, should not be treated differently than a normal out bounds call in the last two minutes.
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Zou Bisou Bisou was sitting right there and wouldn’t have made me feel nearly as old tyvm
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I like the challenge approach better. Right now in the last two minutes literally every call gets reviewed. It changes the behavior of the refs in how they call the game, it changes the coaches strategy with timeouts, it changes the flow, and it just bogs down the game.
I’m also still a little fuzzy on the types of calls that can or should be reviewed at the next timeout. Right now they can go in and change a 3 to a 2 at the next timeout. This seems like it is adding some sort of goal-tend option to that too. BUT…if it wasn’t a goal-tend but should have been…what happens then? If a guy stepped out of bounds but they missed it and see it when looking at the clock a moment later, can they fix it? Should they? I don’t have an answer…but feels like there’s opportunity.
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ban the charge, obvi. you really don’t even have to blow the whistle. but if no ban, i’m curious if this is actually easier to call for a ref? is the practical effect to turn ties into blocks rather than charges?
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I’m on the ban the charge/block call rule because it’s especially dangerous for players who are airborne when it happens. I get the intent of the rule but at the same time, it’s making the refs job a lot harder because it’s impossible to call it in real time plus the flopping as well.
I don’t have a solution and think it is one of the hardest calls for a ref to make…but I get nervous about banning it completely because I am not a fan of the Dwayne Wade style of play where you just throw yourself into defenders looking for a foul call.
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You don’t get rid of it completely
I think the primary defender can still draw charges outside of the circle
I have problems when help defenders come over to just get in the way and fall over
If a guard is guarding like Julius Randle one on one, Randle doesn’t get to just truck him
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yeah I saw Ben Thompson say basically this and I think I like it. I don’t LOVE primary defender charges but I think they are basically real defense bc you have to be athletic enough to beat your guy to the spot.
That and the defender I think should entitled to stay in front of his man and not just get run through
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I see the fairness argument there but in practice I think it rarely leads to an offense advantage and very often leads to the opposite. Calling blocks on that stuff is bad news tho.
To me taking charges is like castling in chess–a way for smaller players to thwart large ones from completely controlling the area around the basket. It takes balls, sometimes literally, to step up and take one, and can completely change the dynamic of a game. I’ll never understand how people who complain about the lost art of defense also want to take such a wonderful element of gamesmanship away.
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I have the exact opposite perspective and I have 0 interest in tiny unathletic dudes getting in the way of my game
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I have a mixed bag opinion on this. I hate all the Wisconsin style “charge taking”. I do appreciate when someone sacrifices and takes a legit charge.
Ultimately, I blame refs. They get way too excited to give a charge call and it’s f’d it all up.
That’s a good point. That’s where my biggest issue stemmed from a help defender dangerously undercutting the player driving to the hoop. To me, it’s very dangerous for the player driving to the hoop because they have no way of controlling their fall.
If we can limit it to only just the primary defender, then I’m okay with it.
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From a pure viewership perspective, would changing the block/charge call affect viewership at all?
Most of the people who I see talking about changing it are the type to watch either way?
Fewer stoppages makes the game better to watch I think
I think watching, say, Anthony Davis try to swat Morant to Idaho is more fun than watching him slide under him and fall down
I think having good players healthy rather than injured from these plays is better
So maybe not directly but I think it leads to better product
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if you get rid of (or heavily limit) charges, don’t you kind of further incentivize harden-style pell-mell charging at the rim looking to draw a foul?
I really don’t like the style of attempted charge-drawing I’m just not sure how to set up the incentives such that both trying to draw a charge isn’t the right play, and trying to draw a foul rather than trying to score isn’t the right play
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