To him being the key word.
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I have been trying to figure out how to convey my concerns for this overall any why some sort of hockey-like model might work. Still struggling to put in words, but I think my concern is for the fringe draft guys. Basically the draft will now have another 10-15 guys declare without adding a round or compensatory picks. That bumps 10-15 guys into UDFA and the long GLeague road.
Look at guys like Diabate and Houstan. Both clearly wanted to get to the NBA as soon as possible, both had enough potential to get NBA attention, but werenât locksto be picked. Would they have been picked if 10-15 HS guys declared? Would they themselves have declared a year earlier for better or worse?
I think the concern is that the evaluation process is limited and thereâs to recourse if the draft doesnât go your way. Maybe the compromise for the draft, instead of the full hockey rule, is that if you are undrafted you can return to school.
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I think Caleb would have almost certainly gone pro out of high school based on his ranking, mock draft status at that point, etc.
Moussa, Iâm not sure out of high school because he had greater motive but I actually think he helped himself a lot in one year of college and still was a 2nd rounder.
There are more guys going pro, but that calculus will just go into college guysâ decisions to go pro or not. I donât really think returning to school after not getting drafted in June works for anyone really from a logistical standpoint (those guys need to be replaced by transfers by then). Sounds great in theory but hard to imagine it actually working (or being utilized).
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If college hockey coaches can figure the logistics(draft and season are later than nba) out I donât see why college basketball couldnât. Hockeys draft is in July. It would take a true partnership between the nba and college though, college coaches and nhl teams have pretty open dialogue of whatâs going happen with drafted kids.
He was referencing a situation where a CBB player can declare from the draft, not get drafted and then return to school.
Hockey players get drafted and then negotiate a contract and decide if they want to leave (I believe?).
I donât think it is realistic that someone will want to go through the whole draft process and then return to school based on how the system is setup right now. It also isnât realistic for colleges to wait on that decision IMO.
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I think every thing the NBA has done over the past 5 years suggests they believe that their system - the G League, etc., is a superior developmental option than college (at the very least, their goal is to make this so). They have invested a decent amount of blood and treasure in making it so.
You can agree or disagree, but I think itâs clear this is their view, and thus any system that steers kids to college over the G League is, I think, unlikely.
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also, hockey timelines are much different - players are almost universally drafted the second theyâre eligible, but almost none are ready for pro-level hockey yet. the top 3ish players might jump to the NHL that fall, but otherwise, NHL teams always let them stay in college/OHL (Canadian junior league)/wherever they were previously for at least a year. so, thereâs very little concern the late-June draft will impact that fallâs season.
Will the NCAA think of going to this rule?
Might be higher scoringâŚ
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Soccer inspired, but it makes more sense with a large space. Even in soccer the ref will stop play for a dead ball if the team is close to goal. Too easy for a guys to score in 1/2 secs in bball.
I do like that dead ball turnovers would have the same consequences as live ball turnovers though.
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Yeah it would definitely change things a bit. But in cbb and nba fans and players are too close
Tragic news former UCLA player Jalen Hill passed away today.
It is a back-court rule so if it is near the basket, it wouldnt be applicable.
Very curious and interested how the rule plays out. You definitely get soccer players advancing the ball beyond where it went out pretty often - wonder how that will play out here
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Believe this logic would have gotten um out of Ed Martin saga
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Based on the NCAAâs definition any alum is considered a booster⌠donât know what 2008 has to do with it
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Very generous Tier 2A for some of those guys.
*Sees Tier2A with Cooley *
*immediately closes tab *
Cooley in the tier above Buzz Williams, That Matta, Jamie Dixon, Mike Brey?? Thatâs not including the younger high upside guys that are 90% likely to surpass Cooley in a year or two that they put in the tier below (Juwan, Lloyd, Oats) but at least you can say those guys have more to prove. But what has Cooley done to be a tier above those other guys?
TCU is a worse job than Providence historically, and Dixon already has had 3 KP top 30 teams to Cooleyâs 0
Matta injury questions I guess
Brey obviously has lost some shine in recent years but come on
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LOL. That goes to show how much thought was put into this beyond recency bias. Iâd bookmarked it for later, but wonât bother. The Athletic lacks the editors needed to make their features worth even the dollar per month, IMO. Either youâve got a beat writer worth paying for â which we used to â or forget it.
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