As part of a home and home with school X? 
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I love the guy, but naming the court after him, eh, I donât know. Iâm not sure if he did quite enough to get that.
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He took the program from out of the ashes, helped get money put back into the program (the full remodel of Crisler and the addition of the PDC) , took the team to two Championship games, won multiple B1G titles, and is the winningest basketball coach ever at the school. I think other schools have named their courts for less.
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I assumed jemblue was being sarcastic but I could be wrong
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Iâm all for naming the court after him, but I would prefer they do it when heâs done coaching. Playing on John Beilein Court wonât feel right if heâs making a final four run with another school
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I would also addâŚand I hate to say thisâŚthe Louisville team broke the rules. More than anything, JB built culture and respect through the character of his teams and that character emulates who Michigan strives to be!
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Well, itâs extremely hard to be excellent from day one until the end of the year, or excellent from year-to-year.
UNC, for example, won it all in 2009 and failed to make the NCAA tourney the following year. The same is true for Kentucky in 2012 (won it all) and 2013 (failed to make the tourney). Even the blue bloods and top recruiters struggle with the problem youâre identifying. Look at Virginia this year - won it all last year, lost some of their top talent, and now theyâre struggling. Theyâll likely make the tourney, but as an 8/9, certainly not a 1-4.
Duke is probably the best example of being consistently excellent, but even they dropped first round tourney games to Lehigh in 2011 and Mercer in 2014.
There are very few teams that are consistently great year-after-year. And importantly, Michigan has never been one of those teams. If Juwan can do it, thatâs fantastic. But itâs a really high bar to set. You can make a strong argument weâve been the best team in the Big Ten since 2011, and thatâs certainly saying something.
And in retrospect, it seems pretty clear the injuries to Levert and Walton were a pretty significant loss for us in 2015. Youâre talking two NBA players. And Spike went down, too. Having to play Andrew Dakich significant minutes was hardly ideal.
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No. I think heâs the best coach in the history of the program, but 12 years isnât that long of a tenure to be honored like that. 278 wins is good, but itâs not an out-of-this-world total. I expect that to be broken at some point.
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I may not be the most qualified to talk about the history of this program, but would I be wrong to assume JB probably had the most impact on the program compared to other coaches? win total aside
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I donât know. What puts him ahead of Dave Strack? He really built the program from nothing, and we were good most of the next 35 years. Beilein knew that history and that attracted to him to the job. We had had a tough decade before, but we werenât Northwestern.
If Beilein had coached another five years and gone out in a blaze of glory, I might think differently. But he decided to pursue another job.
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Right - we could have easily still lost.
why not? I am sure that is his goal and everyone who is part of the program
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While I would be fine with naming the court after JB or whatever â that itâs a talking point is certainly fallout from his decision to leave. If he sticks around 5 more years and Michigan has equal success to what theyâd been doing, itâs really a no brainer and heâs an all-time legend. Now, heâs still a legend and I personally will always hold him in extremely high esteem but it at did affect his resume at Michigan if that makes sense.
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Depends on if we look at negative impact too. I think other coaches might beat him out from that alone.
For comparative purposes:
Fielding Yost was a coach/AD here for 40 years.
Fritz Crisler was a coach/AD here for 30 years.
Bo Schembechler was football coach for 21 years and briefly AD after.
Red Berenson was hockey coach for 33 years.
John Beilein was menâs basketball coach for 12 years. He could have become a Bo-like legend but didnât stay long enough IMO.
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IMO its splitting hairs between him strack, and fisher (depending how you feel about he sanctions). Strack built the program from absolutely nothing into a top tier one. Jb brought the program back from the dark ages. Fisher had the most high level success and literally built the program to point where it was maybe the highest profile program in the country.
I would abstain from naming a court after Beilein. He left the program for another coaching position and for me that costs him his campus immortality. Iâll remember him as a great coach, but I donât need to hear his name mentioned during every home game. Maybe name one of the locker room lockers after him. Itâs Howardâs court now.
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If you are judging a coach on nattysâŚâŚyou will be disappointed considering we have won exactly one in the last 30 years or so.
I liked Dylanâs suggestion of Beilein to Norte Dame on the podcast but is there any sentiment from Notre Dame fans to move on from Brey? Heâs had a good run there but they have fallen off the last 3 years. I donât know if missing the tourney 3 straight years is enough to get you fired from ND especially after making back to back elite 8âs and 7 straight tourneys.
Wake Forest might make some sense too. I assume Danny Manning has to be on the hot seat. Heâs done very little in his tenure making one tourney as one of the Dayton teams.