Got to be harder to run a practice with only 10 players. Especially since not all 10 will be available all the time,
Forgive me, everyone, but I am feeling real malice toward MSU these days. I would like to see Izzo get buried this year.
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Me too. But, at the very least, swept. You have to sweep them when the opportunity arises. The '20 loss to MSU is to me almost as bad as the E8 loss.
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Oh absolutely forever and always. This year to me feels a little different for them because of his active defiance against certain relevant things in CBB (the portal, NIL, basically all the get off my lawn old man stuff, etc) that is going to affect their team. His singular decision to roll with 10 guys is inexcusable in this current climate. Always want them to fail, and this hopefully their mediocre season is pinned on him more than usual due to his poor decision making.
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Interestingâunnecessary (?)âgamble.
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Itâs terrible roster construction, but having coached where we had 7-9 playersâŚMSU has a full roster available, just unused scholarships. Their practices will be fine. Maybe Keon Coleman joins them in a few weeks.
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Maybe the practices are fine, but thereâs a chance they arenât. One of those players is recovering from a foot procedure that can get worse with overuse and another scholarship guy didnât make his HS varsity/first team. Add in a rolled ankle here or or there, or something more serious (obviously never want this), and things get dicey quickly. Seems rare for a CBB team to make it through the season without a handful of guys missing a handful of games.
In a perfect world, 10 is enough, but closer inspection shows the potential for things to get wild. Iâm just more in awe of Izzoâs defiance about it. Sure, with the portal and recruiting things can happen where you are left with ten and the coach is bummed but understands. Izzo was actively against adding more guys to prove some point about who knows what.
They have 10 scholarship players not 10 players right? I get that everyone loves the jokes but the ânot having a great bigâ is a much better deal than the number of players.
I donât know why practices would be an issue.
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Logistically itâs not. But their 8th-10th guys are guys that should be 11th-13th on any respectable roster but arenât because he refused to fill scholarships.
It would be like if Llewelyn and Baker and Khayat just werenât added to the Michigan roster in the offseason, so Michiganâs 7th-9th guys became Barnes, Jace and Tschetter, instead of them being our end of bench likely to never get in the game guys.
Itâs going to have a massive impact on their season IMO.
Donât teams run a lot of scrimmages in practice, the quality of which would suffer from filling slots with walk-ons?
I just donât think it is comparable to that. Baker and Llewellyn were added to be in the playing group not to fill out the roster.
Michigan had 2 guys that RSâd last year, Michigan added Glenn and heâs likely a RS. Itâs not like having 13 active scholarship players is necessary. There were tons of Beilein teams that didnât use all 13 scholarships.
Just off the top of my head but I believe Michiganâs 2021 team had 12 scholarship players are that included Jace, Zeb and Nunez. Many of whom were basically never going to feature on that team.
If you want to say all the fives arenât good⌠well, yeah that is likely true. Thatâs more a talent thing than a numbers thing though.
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Once you get into the season, I donât think you are running 5v5 like that all that often. Most practices have the scout team run what the next opponent is going to run and then the first team plays against them.
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Right but I thought that was the assertion here, was that itâs insane that Izzo didnât add to the playing group, given what the roster is, particularly at center but also at wing, losing Brown and Christie and replacing with justâŚPierre Brooks. I wouldnât be upset that he didnât add three more Carsen Coopers. But he essentially called Micah Parrish and Jalen Bridges and then packed it up while every other team in the country was still looking for impact guys. Like Juwan didnât take his ball and go home after Shannon didnât get through admissions.
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The narrative in this thread is âIzzo is a lunatic for only using 10 scholarship players and didnât even try to get anyone in the portalâ instead of âIzzo tried to get two wings in the portal and missed and didnât prioritize anyone else.â
The post thing is a big concern IMO. It has been an issue two years in a row and I think itâll be an issue again.
I donât really see numbers/depth as a real issue because if your 11th or 12th guy is impacting your season then you are probably fâd regardless.
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Listen to Izzoâs interview on the Huge show a few weeks ago. Reeks of just an old dude screaming about how things used to be, and people now have to go through âsomething illegal, called adversity.â Heâs using his limited roster and how he handled this off season as a badge of honor.
10 guys is 10 guys, whatever. His arrogance and bravado about it is nauseating.
Or maybe, just hear me out, he didnât get the transfers he wanted and heâs using that fact to preach about the state of college basketball.
Might sound the same on the surface, but is different IMO.
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Isnât that⌠worse?
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I mean it is grandstanding that college coaches love to do, it is turning the roster into a motivation strategy (I bet on you guys), etc. etc. It just seems like what coaches do?
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Shocking that Izzo would concoct a narrative that diminishes his possible responsibility for a negative result. We have surely never seen that happen.
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Itâs a good thing he develops fine upstanding young men who never have a negative impact on society.
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